Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 24, 2002 16:13:06 GMT -5
|
Post by cat2000 on Sept 9, 2010 20:50:02 GMT -5
I could go on and on about CM. I hate to get into the damn subject once again. Im sure I have or we have covered the subject many times over the last decade here, but it is not even a close call.
If you dont believe me ask Eric "Moon" Manual. See how his career was ruined by CM.
There are so many things you could talk about when it concerns CM that its not even a question at this point really.
f%@!ing CM Newton Field, what a f%@!ing joke.
cat2000 one mans opinion
|
|
gocatsgo
Dynasty Defender Recruit
Posts: 228
Became a Dynasty Defender: Feb 13, 2007 21:59:27 GMT -5
|
Post by gocatsgo on Sept 9, 2010 22:15:37 GMT -5
Has CM said or done anything in the last few days that led you to mention this? Just curious. I do not like his son going back to his days on the broadcasts and wonder about him being involved in UK staff. As to CM, I do not know any specifics about what you are alluding to. Can you share how you know about his opinion of UK?
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
|
Post by Streeter on Sept 10, 2010 0:08:37 GMT -5
Did he hate UK when he got Pitino away from the Knicks? or did the hatred come later?
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 26, 2007 15:53:32 GMT -5
|
Post by Mr.Lair on Sept 10, 2010 0:34:54 GMT -5
Not sure but this might have some thing to do with Kanter. Apparently 2 members of the NCAA board are trying their hardest to refuse Kanter to be eligible to play college ball. There was a post on HOB but it was deleted because the source was clearly identified and they clearly named the reason why they don't want him to be able to play at UK.
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 26, 2007 15:53:32 GMT -5
|
Post by Mr.Lair on Sept 10, 2010 0:40:56 GMT -5
I also know that the person that posted that has a great tie into the athletic department, and TCP deleted it because they know the source is inside the athletic department.
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Nov 19, 2007 17:14:10 GMT -5
|
Post by Cool Hand Luke on Sept 10, 2010 6:22:24 GMT -5
Anyone who has followed UK athletics the past couple of decades knows, without question, C.M. Newton is no friend of our athletic program. Just because he brought in Pitino does not give him a free pass to destroy our reputation and program. He has been against UK many more years than he has been for UK. It shows.
I hope someone in authority has the gonads to take down his name from our football stadium. It is disgraceful and shows just how unimportant our football program is to those in charge.
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 24, 2002 16:13:06 GMT -5
|
Post by cat2000 on Sept 10, 2010 9:05:19 GMT -5
I stand by the statement.
He hated UK.
Then Rozelle (the UK President at the time) goes out and puts the fox in the hen house. Then CM had the chance to do what he had wanted to do for years.
Tear down UK basketball from the inside. Sort of sounds like our President today.
I can hear him to this day, so angry down under the stands after a game in Rupp when we had beaten Vandy, he absolutely tore UK apart. The reporters at the time kept asking him, you sure you want this on the record coach? At the moment he didn't care, but oddly not one word of it was printed in the rags the next day.
During the NCAA investigation there were moments when someone would throw a charge at us and it couldn't be proven and his answer was always, well must be something there.
Moon Manual is something that causes spittle to come out of my mouth when I talk about it, even today.
Ask some of my friends here how upset I get about it even 20 some odd years later.
Moon was a great kid. Hard worker, didn't say anything. Was a Ron Mercer before there was a Ron Mercer, only difference was Moon had a better jump shot.
Course when CM leaves UK some money boys gave him a condo down in the gulf someplace. He didn't mind taking that was last I heard.
cat2000 one mans opinion
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
|
Post by Streeter on Sept 10, 2010 12:14:21 GMT -5
Call me silly then - I just can't understand how a person would help ressurrect the Basketball program off probation getting an NBA / final 4 coach that was young an hungry. YET at the same time held a deep rooted hatred for the university. Either the "hatred" came later on or CM is a masochist.
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
|
Post by Streeter on Sept 10, 2010 12:43:24 GMT -5
Call me silly then - I just can't understand how a person would help ressurrect the Basketball program off probation getting an NBA / final 4 coach that was young an hungry. YET at the same time held a deep rooted hatred for the university. Either the "hatred" came later on or CM is a masochist. It's called MONEY, CM Neuter had to produce something. I mean he did hire a guy that got us on probation in Mumme and yeah I know the air raid was fun...but subsequently UL built a program stronger than UKs at the time, fueled by UK being wrapped up in the Abyss of shit called probation...THEN CM Newton helped to broker the Pisstino to UL deal...You feelin the love yet?....Ask Eric Manuel. I will give you an example. Pitino obviously didnt care for UK but brought UK glory. I say he didnt care for UK because if he did....YOU KNOW DAMN WELL UL WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN A PLACE HE WOULD COACH {AFTER} being at UK. Pitino knew how UK and their fans feel about UL. So Pitino didn't Love UK -- you think Cal does? UK to people like Pitino an Cal is a place to do what they do on the grandest stages and all them all access an tools to achieve their personal goals. I like Cal - not becasue I think he is a UK guy - but becasue I love his style of play and the fact he is the best recruiter in modern history - I love what he brings to UK as to making the program noticed again and a winner. If I wanted someone that just Loved UK Travis or Pel would of been the choice. as for CM I don't know much about him or the Manual story maybe educate me there -- all I know is when he was here UK basketball seemed to do pretty good -- whether that was in spite of him or what.
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 24, 2002 16:13:06 GMT -5
|
Post by cat2000 on Sept 10, 2010 14:53:27 GMT -5
Keep in mind that when Pitino was hired he was at a minimum the 3rd or 4th choice.
BJ Carlisimo sp was first, turned it down,
Olsen was second and was even introduced to the team at one point as the new head coach.
CM also let it be known that times were tough and by god he would just have to take it over himself to get it straightened out.
Pitino was somewhere below that at that point.
EVERY UK FAN I KNOW HATED THE IDEA OF BJ.
MOST HATED OLSEN. Although we would have settled.
WE KNEW WE WERE f%@!ED WHEN CM SAID HE MIGHT TAKE IT OVER.
I did not know one inside person at UK nor ANY UK fan that did not want Pitino. That was reason enough for CM to try to hire anyone but Pitino.
I was at the press conference when CM introduced RP. RP in the first thing that came out of his mouth was "We will win and win now. We will play Kentucky style basketball and impose our will on other teams"
CM hated that, every UK fan that day felt exactly like you did the day Cal was hired. You knew it was going to be a hell of a ride.
CM even was upset that Pitino cussed a blue streak during practices.
I will say till my last breath that he was the wolf in the chicken coop.
cat2000 one mans opinion
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
|
Post by Streeter on Sept 10, 2010 16:02:09 GMT -5
Alright I give -- Uncle. I take your word for it being as I admit I don't know much about him other than He hired Pitino and Tubby.
I know all about Pitino cussing - I sat near the bench a few times in 95 and 96 - Every word out of his mouth that was not a swear was preceeded by one.
What is the Manual thing?
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
|
Post by ruppsrunt on Sept 10, 2010 16:14:39 GMT -5
cmneuter *sided with the ncaa to get his own position on the committee *threw Manuel under the bus--along with UK *never asked for PROOF, nor defended a position *threw Casey under the bus--Casey garnered a payment from the NCAA *hired teflonturd to sate his own need to be fair *left UK and earned a yearly stipend while doing NOTHING for UK *aided peeboy in garnering a smell job, while being paid by UK *swindled a nice hideaway in the south atlantic from UK funds--while helping peeboy get to smell *supported the teflonturd dismal destruction of UK, even supported the racist trash by t5 *created the crazed drinking rule that cost camara a year and allison a career *lucked out with peeboy because the player "choker" did not accept *got his name on a UK football stadium for personal gratification *changed athletic wear support to garner his babyboy a job *never questioned any ncaa claims, though NO proof provided *nullified the $$$$($100,000,000 promised) for a new b'ball arena to assure a library would be built
screw cmneuter---a self centered self serving egoist who USED UK to garner his own wants and personal needs.
What honest individual takes $$$ from anyone while assisting an enemy(competitor) to gain improvement? cmneuter fits the description.
rr
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Feb 14, 2006 21:37:14 GMT -5
|
Post by robcat1 on Sept 10, 2010 16:16:00 GMT -5
Regardless of going to school at UK, I had a hard time when he was announced believing that someone who spent years at 2 rival SEC schools coaching against UK was a good choice. Moon was a great player and a great kid who got screwed royally en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Manuel
|
|
Became a Dynasty Defender: Nov 19, 2007 17:14:10 GMT -5
|
Post by Cool Hand Luke on Sept 10, 2010 18:08:29 GMT -5
What happened to Manual was criminal. He did not deserve any of the garbage thrown at him.
|
|
gocatsgo
Dynasty Defender Recruit
Posts: 228
Became a Dynasty Defender: Feb 13, 2007 21:59:27 GMT -5
|
Post by gocatsgo on Sept 10, 2010 20:57:57 GMT -5
I remember seeing lots of innuendo regarding CM that painted him in a very bad light. I seem to remember that there was a Lexington woman who wrote a pretty scathing book, but I can't remember who or what the book was. I guess I have no trouble believing it, I am just looking for some specifics as to what CM really did. I remember the flap over the condo and that CM was really ticked off that anybody would think there was any sort of ethical issue involved because he had "sacrificed" so much in regard to his salary while at UK. I also remember he was a big friend of Bob Knight, which is a suspect thing given his hatred for all things UK. However, I still don't really think I have heard any real specifics as to his (Newton's) hatred of UK.
|
|