Became a Dynasty Defender: Jul 30, 2006 20:24:02 GMT -5
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Post by hoopsgod on Feb 8, 2012 16:01:19 GMT -5
^ good answer
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 2, 2006 10:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by Des Moines Rugby on Feb 8, 2012 17:18:36 GMT -5
CHOICES are that which dictate outcomes. not exploitation. rr Really? On my drive home tonight from work...if I am struck by another vehicle, that outcome is by my "choice"? If I am born to crack-addicted parents, did I "choose" that starting point in my life? That everyone can do anything they want in life if they work hard, is the American dream. But, the reality is that there are events and circumstances beyond our control. Luckily, I wasn't born to crack-addicted parents. Nor have I been struck by a vehicle that required medical attention or rehabilitation or worse. I consider myself fortunate...not necessarily a better decision maker. Basic capitalism says you should charge someone what they are willing to pay for a product or service. So...how much are you willing to pay for your daughter's broken arm? Or your son's hearing? You think hospitals and doctors don't "exploit" this? Capitalism at its worst lends to greed which lends to exploitation. I am not in favor of marxism. Marxism tends to foster a lazy society. I am not completely in favor of capitalism as it fosters greed. But, your statement that we are where we are solely because of choices we made in our lives, is near-sighted. depends on your definition capitalism....in the purest form it is the best option we have as humans......what we have today is crony capitalism, which is why we have a number of issues...that being said I will take capitalism over any other economic system you can think of.... I won't argue with the fact that the "lottery of life" isn't fair in the sense of where you are born and the kind of parents you are born to....God has blessed me many times over in that regard....but nothing was set in stone or handed to me....and I can bring up many people that were born into terrible places and circumstances that have went on to do great things....the bottom line is there is always going to be some type of inequity and lack of fairness...hopefully we as a people will be charitable and reach out in different ways to help those that can't help themselves and to those willing to pull themselves up from their circumstance...
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Feb 8, 2012 21:37:23 GMT -5
Born to a crak muther, or illegitimate to worthless lowlifes has ZERO to do with exploitation.
Those who toil in mines, on farms, in factories, in labs, in hospitals and are forced to pay TAXES--so lowlifes can breed, and demand and live off the effort and work of others---that is EXPLOITATION!!!!
Those who get the free rides, the free food, free housing, free welfare, free gubment handouts---they are the exploiters. They breed, demand, and get $$$ for breeding--while never contributing. Then THEY pretnd to be the exploited.
If one can go to school for 12 years for free, AND THEN PRETEND THEY ARE EXPLOITED--IT IS BRCAUSE THEY FAILED TO MAKE GOOD "choices"!! BREEDERS "choose'to find a means to live off gubment handouts--their offspring find the freebies enticing--and CHOOSE to continue the cycle of dependency---they breed--they complain--they ge thandouts--they breed some more.
those paying for the breeders are the exploited.
Those who fail in school, waste time in school, screw around in school, and end up in low paying jobs--they made choices to assure their lot.
CHOICES----the results are what occur from choices. Breed out of wedlock--join a lowlife gang--waste education opportunity--thieve--the results can be expected.
EXPLOITATION is an art form devised to ignore life choices and blame.
If one feels exploited by other than gubment taxes, rules, regulations and control---then one needs to look in the mirror to see the cause of the feeling of exploitation.
the ignorant are exploited because they have nothing of significant value with which to trade--ergo, they made pathetic choices that assured they had to blame others for their exploitation.
gubment sponsored breeders are the primary exploiters in the USA. they live off others, and expect others to pay for their pathetic CHOICES.
rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 30, 2006 23:19:52 GMT -5
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Post by musicman on Feb 8, 2012 22:08:33 GMT -5
Throwing my two cents in this...there is no other form of economic structure that works better than capitalism. We still have the single largest GDP of any country in the world. In fact, our system produces a GDP that is larger than most developed countries you can think of combined (China, Russia, Japan, etc.). We have more wealth per capita than any other country. I could literally go on and on with more examples and stats. I think capitalism works well. The evidence supports it. I'm pretty fond of the American capitalism model. You can't find anything else you'd rather have. I guarantee that; especially if you're being honest.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jul 19, 2006 20:15:14 GMT -5
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Post by easyduzz on Feb 9, 2012 1:08:33 GMT -5
rr. you nailed it exactly . #th_ThumbsUpSmiley#
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 30, 2006 12:38:57 GMT -5
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Post by blueedge - (KFWA) on Feb 9, 2012 7:20:57 GMT -5
All I know is I like Anthony Davis
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 31, 2005 11:35:30 GMT -5
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Post by Big Worm on Feb 9, 2012 10:15:17 GMT -5
All I know is I like Anthony Davis Me too! I am going to exploit the shit out of Anthony Davis and his ability to block shots. I enjoy watching - my own selfish end.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Feb 9, 2012 10:28:12 GMT -5
One may consider that Anthony Davis is "exploiting" UK.
He gets a FREE education--gets FREE tutoring in books--and BASKETBALL--gets free coaching from the best--gets all expenses paid while getting free education and top notch b'ball coaching--gets to "learn on the job"---and is certain to garner $millions after 1 season--because he got to "exploit" UK and its coaches and its facilities.
AD--just like Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Knight--exploiting UK on their way to $millions--in 1 year!!!
imagine if they went to puke, or smell, or uncch, or syracuse---where they likely require 2 or 3 seasons to start making those $millions!!
Yep--the "best of the best" get to exploit UK and attain their objectives the quickest--$millions!!
rr #th_biggrin#
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 31, 2005 11:35:30 GMT -5
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Post by Big Worm on Feb 9, 2012 10:29:09 GMT -5
Throwing my two cents in this...there is no other form of economic structure that works better than capitalism. We still have the single largest GDP of any country in the world. In fact, our system produces a GDP that is larger than most developed countries you can think of combined (China, Russia, Japan, etc.). We have more wealth per capita than any other country. I could literally go on and on with more examples and stats. I think capitalism works well. The evidence supports it. I'm pretty fond of the American capitalism model. You can't find anything else you'd rather have. I guarantee that; especially if you're being honest. I agree. Capitalism is by far the best economic structure. It does have flaws though, and corporate greed is way out of control in this country. There are many people who exploit society by asking for free handouts when they are not needed. Absolutely, without a doubt, I have seen it first hand. And, it's enough to make anyone angry. But, there are, without a doubt, those that need help from society. I have seen that first hand also. Our society cannot lose basic human compassion because some exploit our generosity. We cannot become a pack of lions looking to devour the weak.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 31, 2005 11:35:30 GMT -5
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Post by Big Worm on Feb 9, 2012 10:31:41 GMT -5
One may consider that Anthony Davis is "exploiting" UK. He gets a FREE education--gets FREE tutoring in books--and BASKETBALL--gets free coaching from the best--gets all expenses paid while getting free education and top notch b'ball coaching--gets to "learn on the job"---and is certain to garner $millions after 1 season--because he got to "exploit" UK and its coaches and its facilities. AD--just like Wall, Cousins, Bledsoe, Knight--exploiting UK on their way to $millions--in 1 year!!! imagine if they went to puke, or smell, or uncch, or syracuse---where they likely require 2 or 3 seasons to start making those $millions!! Yep--the "best of the best" get to exploit UK and attain their objectives the quickest--$millions!! rr #th_biggrin# Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Nov 14, 2002 7:09:12 GMT -5
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Post by ironhorse on Feb 9, 2012 10:34:26 GMT -5
Greed is a sin and human flaw. Anyone young,old...Rich or poor can succumb to Greed. Capitalism is the very best economic system for a free people. That's why the fascists,Communists and socialists hate it,and try to demonize it...because Capitalism spurs financial independence and personal freedom.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Nov 14, 2002 7:09:12 GMT -5
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Post by ironhorse on Feb 9, 2012 11:04:19 GMT -5
There is a fine line between Greed,and self preservation. It's a personal choice. What I call greed might not be considered greed to others.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Feb 14, 2006 12:30:10 GMT -5
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Post by bluefinger on Feb 9, 2012 11:21:09 GMT -5
Born to a crak muther, or illegitimate to worthless lowlifes has ZERO to do with exploitation. Those who toil in mines, on farms, in factories, in labs, in hospitals and are forced to pay TAXES--so lowlifes can breed, and demand and live off the effort and work of others---that is EXPLOITATION!!!! Those who get the free rides, the free food, free housing, free welfare, free gubment handouts---they are the exploiters. They breed, demand, and get $$$ for breeding--while never contributing. Then THEY pretnd to be the exploited. If one can go to school for 12 years for free, AND THEN PRETEND THEY ARE EXPLOITED--IT IS BRCAUSE THEY FAILED TO MAKE GOOD "choices"!! BREEDERS "choose'to find a means to live off gubment handouts--their offspring find the freebies enticing--and CHOOSE to continue the cycle of dependency---they breed--they complain--they ge thandouts--they breed some more. those paying for the breeders are the exploited. Those who fail in school, waste time in school, screw around in school, and end up in low paying jobs--they made choices to assure their lot. CHOICES----the results are what occur from choices. Breed out of wedlock--join a lowlife gang--waste education opportunity--thieve--the results can be expected. EXPLOITATION is an art form devised to ignore life choices and blame. If one feels exploited by other than gubment taxes, rules, regulations and control---then one needs to look in the mirror to see the cause of the feeling of exploitation. the ignorant are exploited because they have nothing of significant value with which to trade--ergo, they made pathetic choices that assured they had to blame others for their exploitation. gubment sponsored breeders are the primary exploiters in the USA. they live off others, and expect others to pay for their pathetic CHOICES. rr Brilliant!
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