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Post by Streeter on Aug 20, 2016 17:01:18 GMT -5
Personally I can't believe it's not when drinking is. There are so many medical benefits to marijuana - digestive, mental health, pain, fighting serious illness etc..... look it up all the medical benefits from marijuana. Aside from the fact it isn't nearly as addictive as liquor, it's a non aggressive buzz, no hangover , and does no harm to your body as long as you use edibles - granted the smoking is harmful the same way cigs are. Personally I almost never smoke it I do edibles as I don't like the head buzz as much as the body high from edibles anyway. it's no more a "gateway" "drug" than Liquor maybe less of one. The money it could generate if legalized is staggering especially for the state of Kentucky as well as nationally.
I know this is a 90-95% conservative board - so I'm asking what are your arguments against the legalization? I can't think of one reason why Liquor should be legal and marijuana illegal ...... while I could actually think of a few the reverse.
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Post by fiddling on Aug 21, 2016 6:08:37 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings. Your booze argument strikes a chord. It would also help ease the burden on the legal system. I'm for as little gov intrusion in our lives as possible. OTOH, what about unintended consequences? IE more traffic accidents. I really don't know how I'd vote if it came up. I'm not well enough informed on the subject.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Aug 21, 2016 6:40:05 GMT -5
*My main concern is to make sure proboard rules are not broken and that means no promotion of illegal substances.* I think as posed, this "question" is OK per our rules.
I believe an opinion of the laws on the two drugs in question (alcohol and cannabis) can be given.
My opinion on these two drugs is that it should be up to the states and even the counties in states to decide. (counties....once the state passes legality. Only a handful of states have both legal currently, but that will grow, obviously. Its been that way with the drug alcohol in Ky. There are counties where its illegal. The way it is now, states can vote to make cannabis legal so the trend is to leave it to the states, but I think it also should come down to counties in those states on both drugs. (opinion, not promotion)
*But as a disclaimer to our host, our site here does not promote the use of alcohol or cannabis, we are just exploring (In this thread only) "opinions" on the laws involving both.*
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Aug 23, 2016 14:23:28 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings. Your booze argument strikes a chord. It would also help ease the burden on the legal system. I'm for as little gov intrusion in our lives as possible. OTOH, what about unintended consequences? IE more traffic accidents. I really don't know how I'd vote if it came up. I'm not well enough informed on the subject. wouldt be anymore accidents as now. It's pretty easy to get just not legal and not taxed. Why it isn't legal is crazy. Edibles do nothing to harm tbe body only help it , it's not addictive, and doesn't make u sick the next day. Can liquor say that? Imo the benefits to edibles far outweigh the concerns. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Aug 23, 2016 15:53:13 GMT -5
I have mixed feelings. Your booze argument strikes a chord. It would also help ease the burden on the legal system. I'm for as little gov intrusion in our lives as possible. OTOH, what about unintended consequences? IE more traffic accidents. I really don't know how I'd vote if it came up. I'm not well enough informed on the subject. wouldt be anymore accidents as now. It's pretty easy to get just not legal and not taxed. Why it isn't legal is crazy. Edibles do nothing to harm tbe body only help it , it's not addictive, and doesn't make u sick the next day. Can liquor say that? Imo the benefits to edibles far outweigh the concerns. Since it's not actually up for a vote, I'm to lazy to research it. If there were a vote, I'd try to learn more about the effects of such action before deciding. It certainly would not be an automatic no vote. |
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Post by crosscreek on Aug 23, 2016 15:58:05 GMT -5
I have never seen or touched the stuff. It came in after my generation. When I went to college beer was about all we had. No drugs that I knew of. In my opinion it should be a state matter. Not a federal issue. If Colorado wants to legalize it, fine with me. If Kentucky says no, fine with me. Total state control.
It would be tax revenue and you know government is always looking for a way to tax. If I were the governor of a state I may run on a platform of doing away with all state and local income taxes and making it legal with a HUGE tax. I would call it a vice tax and triple what a bottle of booze brings in taxes.
But the main thing is I would get the federal Government out of it. Because everything they get involved with turns to cow manure.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Aug 23, 2016 18:47:57 GMT -5
...it's "high" time that the individual States took more control of what goes on inside their borders...otherwise, why have guvners?....growin' up, I've smoked more reefer than streeter could bale in a 2 acre field...here's my point...IF, If, if the fedral gubment passes legal smoke, it just gives them the avenues to go one step further....either it's callin' conservatives racist, or it's allowin' males in a female restroom....liberals won't stop until the USA has been literally tore up...after all, their man that they love and try and emulate Saul Alinsky, is one thing that they will never stop at until all his points have been met...meanwhile, the ones voting for libs will never see it coming until it's TOO LATE......
...a person doesn't know politics in this day and age UNTIL he finally realizes that the AIM of the liberal party is to bring the USA down to her knees...
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Aug 24, 2016 8:39:58 GMT -5
As long as drugs, prostitution, tobacco, alcohol, etc causes NO harm to anyone but the person using---then "buyer beware" should be the law of the land(with each state setting their own guidelines. However--use of "I was under the influence" no longer is an acceptable defense when harm to others occurs.
Time to end the national "nanny state", with lowlifes in the federal gubment deciding how to wipe our ass, how to drink cokes, and how to fart properly.
Also--no more SANCTUARY cities, counties, houses or states---if a lowlife illegal criminal (any illegal is a criminal) resides in a "sanctuary"--arrest and deport the illegal--FINE the sanctuary---cut off all federal aid to the sanctuary!! After all--"laws do matter"--for whites, blacks, reds, tans and all genders(all ten of them)!!
rr
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Post by stagger on Aug 24, 2016 11:27:53 GMT -5
Pharmaceutical and alcohol lobbyist are the reason it's still illegal.....they know it would severely impact their respective industries.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Aug 24, 2016 13:00:38 GMT -5
Pharmaceutical and alcohol lobbyist are the reason it's still illegal.....they know it would severely impact their respective industries. "lobbyists" of any ilk are NOT the problem!! The PROBLEM is-----the dirty worthless lowlife scum politicians who seek $$$$$$$$$$$ for their legislative decisions!!! The OFFERER is not the issue--the ACCEPTOR is the problem!!! Time to acknowledge the real problem rests with the dirty lowlife scum elected officials at all levels who are like hillbitch and her foundation--PAY to PLAY lowlifes!! rr |
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Post by stagger on Aug 24, 2016 16:33:10 GMT -5
Pharmaceutical and alcohol lobbyist are the reason it's still illegal.....they know it would severely impact their respective industries. "lobbyists" of any ilk are NOT the problem!! The PROBLEM is-----the dirty worthless lowlife scum politicians who seek $$$$$$$$$$$ for their legislative decisions!!! The OFFERER is not the issue--the ACCEPTOR is the problem!!! Time to acknowledge the real problem rests with the dirty lowlife scum elected officials at all levels who are like hillbitch and her foundation--PAY to PLAY lowlifes!! rr Including the ones with an (R) beside their name, too. Let's not pretend one side dirty and the other is pristine....both are filthy. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Aug 24, 2016 18:03:38 GMT -5
No question--the "establishment" consists of all sorts in gubment, media, bankers, industry and clergy----all in the PAY for PLAY industry thriving off the 45 million TAX PAYERS not on the gubment dole in one form or another.
TIME to replace the establishment crowd with an outsider---VOTE TRUMP--vote for CHANGE!!
rr
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Post by TheProfessor on Aug 24, 2016 22:01:02 GMT -5
rr is right.
The establishment is corrupt throughout. Lies, Bribery, Featherbedding, play for pay. It matters not whether there is a "R", "D", or "I" by a name, if a member of the political ruling class, it is corrupt.
The only candidate that is not part of that political ruling class is Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton epitomizes the political ruling class.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Aug 25, 2016 17:54:00 GMT -5
...it's "high" time that the individual States took more control of what goes on inside their borders...otherwise, why have guvners?....growin' up, I've smoked more reefer than streeter could bale in a 2 acre field...here's my point...IF, If, if the fedral gubment passes legal smoke, it just gives them the avenues to go one step further....either it's callin' conservatives racist, or it's allowin' males in a female restroom....liberals won't stop until the USA has been literally tore up...after all, their man that they love and try and emulate Saul Alinsky, is one thing that they will never stop at until all his points have been met...meanwhile, the ones voting for libs will never see it coming until it's TOO LATE...... ...a person doesn't know politics in this day and age UNTIL he finally realizes that the AIM of the liberal party is to bring the USA down to her knees... Riley - personally are you for or against bud being legal? |
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Post by Streeter on Aug 25, 2016 18:02:38 GMT -5
"lobbyists" of any ilk are NOT the problem!! The PROBLEM is-----the dirty worthless lowlife scum politicians who seek $$$$$$$$$$$ for their legislative decisions!!! The OFFERER is not the issue--the ACCEPTOR is the problem!!! Time to acknowledge the real problem rests with the dirty lowlife scum elected officials at all levels who are like hillbitch and her foundation--PAY to PLAY lowlifes!! rr Including the ones with an (R) beside their name, too. Let's not pretend one side dirty and the other is pristine....both are filthy. I think anyone hardline to the right or left does a dis service. As IMO it doesn't allow for free thought - it makes you so invested in one side or the other. |
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