Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Mar 7, 2019 23:51:15 GMT -5
Legit speaking here no pot stirring
While I do agree with a single payer health care plan if it's done according to the France model - NOT the Canadian model which creates more problems than it solves. And I do agree with free college to an extent. I agree with those 2 Bernie plans ...... kind of but not nearly as far as he wants to take it.
The more I see of Bernie an read about him I can honestly say I view him as more dangerous than Trump. Which I admit is tough for me to say.
I can get behind free college in 50% of public colleges - not all public college free an erasing CURRENT student debt - that crushes lenders an the economy.
I realize this country needs drastic change in it's health care - an we need to go a form of single payer - Bernie wants to model it after the worst ones.
The 91 trillion Green Deal would bankrupt the country ------ it's a utopia pipe dream that isn't feasible. I mean sure it would be great in a perfect world but it can't happen an would decimate the country in many ways.
We all need to hope Biden win the nomination somehow. Theres no way Trump wins in 2020 - an honestly I don't think he wants to - I don't think he wanted or expected it the last time.
Trump won the election becasue he got Penn, Wisc, Mich ....... he will not get any of those 3 and likely not Fl or Ohio either.
You folks on here don't get it - you think Trump wins an does it easy in 2020. If he does it will be a miracle.
If Bernie gets the Nom - he sweeps the west coast and all of the east coast Virginia up. Young people n Minorities will be voting like in droves.
Honestly at this point I don't think Biden can beat Bernie ...... and neither do I think Trump can. Cruz or Paul could win but I doubt they even really really run.
Biden while far from Ideal is safe an won't hurt us at least not badly. I would urge all republicans to register democrats just to get Biden the Nom.
Unfoutunatley when you elect a total imbecile as POTUS - you get a hard core over correction next time around.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Mar 8, 2019 6:45:59 GMT -5
I can agree that this next election is potentially a dangerous one for the future of our country, but the only reason there was an opening for a guy like Trump is the country had swung to far to the left. I don't know who would win in 2020, there's a lot of time to pass between now and then.
I'll give you what many would call a radical opinion and it will never happen. Voting rights should be limited to those who are "productive" members of society. You should pay taxes, military, some kind of Peace Corp/charitable type service, etc to earn the right to vote. If you are only a taker, are you going to vote for the good of the country or to enhance your ability to take? Nothing is free. Somebody always has to pay in some manner.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Mar 8, 2019 7:43:37 GMT -5
To Streeter, Trump is dangerous.
Let that sink in Patriots.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Mar 8, 2019 7:53:03 GMT -5
To Streeter, Trump is dangerous. Let that sink in Patriots. To Catman Trunp is a deity to be worshipped and everything he does is of gods will. Let that sink in. Karman u flat out hate this country u only love Trump once he is gone it's back to radio silence for u. Let that sink in too
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Mar 8, 2019 8:00:12 GMT -5
I can agree that this next election is potentially a dangerous one for the future of our country, but the only reason there was an opening for a guy like Trump is the country had swung to far to the left. I don't know who would win in 2020, there's a lot of time to pass between now and then. I'll give you what many would call a radical opinion and it will never happen. Voting rights should be limited to those who are "productive" members of society. You should pay taxes, military, some kind of Peace Corp/charitable type service, etc to earn the right to vote. If you are only a taker, are you going to vote for the good of the country or to enhance your ability to take? Nothing is free. Somebody always has to pay in some manner. Either u stop Bernie in the nomination primaries or he is next potus. Trump cannot win Wisc, Mich, Penn again. As n I doubt he takes Florida either. Young people n minorities will be vote in record numbers for Bernie. Either u stop him then or get really good dirt on him cuz tru p isnt winning without it.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Mar 8, 2019 8:09:56 GMT -5
I can agree that this next election is potentially a dangerous one for the future of our country, but the only reason there was an opening for a guy like Trump is the country had swung to far to the left. I don't know who would win in 2020, there's a lot of time to pass between now and then. I'll give you what many would call a radical opinion and it will never happen. Voting rights should be limited to those who are "productive" members of society. You should pay taxes, military, some kind of Peace Corp/charitable type service, etc to earn the right to vote. If you are only a taker, are you going to vote for the good of the country or to enhance your ability to take? Nothing is free. Somebody always has to pay in some manner. Either u stop Bernie in the nomination primaries or he is next potus. Trump cannot win Wisc, Mich, Penn again. As n I doubt he takes Florida either. Young people n minorities will be vote in record numbers for Bernie. Either u stop him then or get really good dirt on him cuz tru p isnt winning without it. I think there's a possibility of what you say, especially with the number of people coming in the country who would fit in the taker category and with the D's ability to produce votes (legitimate votes or not). I can also see a reaction to make it go the opposite way. At this point, I don't know.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Mar 8, 2019 8:46:47 GMT -5
Im not worried about losing our country at this juncture Fiddling. In keeping up with our back channel to the president.(Q) I know whats coming.
Its going to be biblical. The financial restructuring will begin before 2020.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Mar 8, 2019 9:27:27 GMT -5
MAGArr
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Post by littleblue on Mar 8, 2019 10:40:47 GMT -5
So Biden can't beat Bernie, but he can beat Trump. Bernie can beat Trump, but he couldn't beat Hillary. Cruz and Paul could beat Bernie, but neither could beat Trump in 2016.
Trump can't win Penn, Wisc, Mich, Fl, or Ohio. Pretty sure pundits thought the same thing in 2016.
Biden can easily beat Bernie, as the DNC has shown a willingness to cheat Bernie at all costs. Bernie will not win the nom, and if he did, Trump would win handily. Cruz and Paul will not run - a non-issue. Biden is more of a clown than Trump - how soon we forget that Obama had to muzzle him regularly to silence his idiotic rants.
I expect a different candidate to emerge for the Dems. And I think the most interesting part of 2020 will be the rise of 3rd party candidates. There's a good chance such a thing could be the deciding factor in a Trump win.
We shall see.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Mar 8, 2019 10:42:12 GMT -5
Im not worried about losing our country at this juncture Fiddling. In keeping up with our back channel to the president.(Q) I know whats coming. Its going to be biblical. The financial restructuring will begin before 2020. I hope you are right, because the next few years are make or break for our country.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Mar 8, 2019 11:47:20 GMT -5
So Biden can't beat Bernie, but he can beat Trump. Bernie can beat Trump, but he couldn't beat Hillary. Cruz and Paul could beat Bernie, but neither could beat Trump in 2016. Trump can't win Penn, Wisc, Mich, Fl, or Ohio. Pretty sure pundits thought the same thing in 2016. Biden can easily beat Bernie, as the DNC has shown a willingness to cheat Bernie at all costs. Bernie will not win the nom, and if he did, Trump would win handily. Cruz and Paul will not run - a non-issue. Biden is more of a clown than Trump - how soon we forget that Obama had to muzzle him regularly to silence his idiotic rants. I expect a different candidate to emerge for the Dems. And I think the most interesting part of 2020 will be the rise of 3rd party candidates. There's a good chance such a thing could be the deciding factor in a Trump win. We shall see. there is no chance Trump gets Wisc, Penn, or mich. Maybe he gets fl an ohio but would be razor close. Biden does go on idiot rants but...... more than Trump ...... come on man u being serious? I think Cruz or Paul would be better as they would go after Bernie on the issue not a mud slinging war. No Trump would in no way beat Bernie hsnidly that's the same foolish thinking that lost the election in 16 for Hillary Hillary beat herself. Thinking no way could Trump ever win. People say no way could a socialist ever win....... youth will be out like ne er before with a promise of wiping away student loans....... blacks with a promise of reparations.......Hispanics with promise of open boarders. Then throw in the alright liberal white people and Bernie wins ....... easily. Also scary due to trumps declaring e.emergency for funding of wall....... what's to stop Bernie declare g emergency for wacko things he wants?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Mar 8, 2019 11:57:26 GMT -5
Actually, you have that wrong Streeter, The Renegade (BO) BUSTED OUT executive orders left and right, so what goes around comes around.
As the renegade said Elections have consequences
So WHY did you not suggest the next president could do the same then?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Mar 8, 2019 13:34:56 GMT -5
..I really do look forward to the democratic debates coming up...it will make the republican one seem very tame....
...an independent candidate running WILL give Trump the victory in 2020..
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Mar 8, 2019 14:09:07 GMT -5
Trump will win in 2020, more importantly he will win in 2019.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Mar 8, 2019 16:33:37 GMT -5
..I really do look forward to the democratic debates coming up...it will make the republican one seem very tame.... ...an independent candidate running WILL give Trump the victory in 2020.. the truly scary thing is the fringe dems like AOC , Bernie, and the 2 Muslim women are the ones running the dem party it seems. It's sad that Trump being president has allowed the extremist dems or even socialists to wield real power.
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