Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Dec 9, 2019 20:11:05 GMT -5
Then you lie with almost every post. You make insane comment about thing s that never happened. Then call it "deep state" bullshit. But OK, some of it is opinion. Trump is charged with those things. I believe he is guilty as charged. As for being scared shitless, that is also subjective. But why would an unafraid man stoop to those levels? As for my believing trump is guilty, that's because the evidence is overwhelming that he is guilty. I quoted YOU--no lie from me. Now--YOU change your lie to "opinion". Fine--you BELIEVE is not proof. but, the original claim was definitive--ego--a LIE; Trump is scared shitless of Biden. He bribed a foreign country to did up dirt on Biden. Why would he do that if he's not scared of Biden? Then he tried to cover it up and wouldn't even let witnesses testify. Those are not the workings of a man unafraid rr really ...... you of all people is going to pick apart a post claiming lies? Damn all u do on here is lie it seems. True most of it is likely trolling bullshit. ..... a person in a thin glass house shouldn't toss stones.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Dec 9, 2019 20:42:29 GMT -5
M Who is “we”? Why do you keep dodging and hiding? Biden is not on trial. Trump is on trial. This is NOT a trial. You are showing your ignorance. The "trial" will be in the Senate. Get your shit straight. Ignorance from you? That's a laugh. You are the dumbest f%@!er to ever turn on a computer. And it is a trial. My shit is together and piled on top of you. And you like it. You follow me around like a little trained pig. I would say puppy but I never knew of a hate filled puppy. Just keep hiding like the coward that you are.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Dec 9, 2019 20:50:48 GMT -5
Then you lie with almost every post. You make insane comment about thing s that never happened. Then call it "deep state" bullshit. But OK, some of it is opinion. Trump is charged with those things. I believe he is guilty as charged. As for being scared shitless, that is also subjective. But why would an unafraid man stoop to those levels? As for my believing trump is guilty, that's because the evidence is overwhelming that he is guilty. I quoted YOU--no lie from me. Now--YOU change your lie to "opinion". Fine--you BELIEVE is not proof. but, the original claim was definitive--ego--a LIE; Trump is scared shitless of Biden. He bribed a foreign country to did up dirt on Biden. Why would he do that if he's not scared of Biden? Then he tried to cover it up and wouldn't even let witnesses testify. Those are not the workings of a man unafraid rr And I'll repeat those facts. Trump bribed a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political rival that he is scared shitless of. The only people that don't know it's the truth are the ones refusing to look at the truth. But I believe that they know it too. I'm sure you know it. But they, and you, are willfully blind just because of politics. You are the Lindsey Graham of the internet. Flip-flop, flip-flop. Trump has tried to obstruct the investigation from the start. He's refused to let the White House staff testify. Why is that? Those are the actions of a man unafraid. You deflect and deflect and try to make it about something else. There's a saying among lawyers, when you can't argue the facts argue the process. That's what's going on here and you damn well know it. How such a purported honorable man can turn a blind eye to justice is beyond normal comprehension. I can understand why a feeble minded lunatic like katman wallows in that shit. I cannot understand why you do.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Dec 9, 2019 21:24:50 GMT -5
A bribe would be a "Quid Pro Quo". Are you saying, without Evidence, it's a Quid Jobber Mr. Schiff?
P.S. That is an old news debunk jobber
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Dec 9, 2019 22:04:09 GMT -5
A bribe would be a "Quid Pro Quo". Are you saying, without Evidence, it's a Quid Jobber Mr. Schiff? P.S. That is an old news debunk jobberI don't even know what you're lying about this time. But there's a mountain of evidence that there was in fact a Quid Pro Quo. You commies say it's all second hand. Even if that were true cases are tried everyday on circumstantial evidence and there's a mountain of that here. You commies say you want first hand accounting. OK, so do the realists. They asked for the white house staff to testify with first hand knowledge. Trump refused to allow it. What's he hiding?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Dec 9, 2019 22:05:42 GMT -5
I quoted YOU--no lie from me. Now--YOU change your lie to "opinion". Fine--you BELIEVE is not proof. but, the original claim was definitive--ego--a LIE; Trump is scared shitless of Biden. He bribed a foreign country to did up dirt on Biden. Why would he do that if he's not scared of Biden? Then he tried to cover it up and wouldn't even let witnesses testify. Those are not the workings of a man unafraid rr And I'll repeat those facts. Trump bribed a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political rival that he is scared shitless of. The only people that don't know it's the truth are the ones refusing to look at the truth. But I believe that they know it too. I'm sure you know it. But they, and you, are willfully blind just because of politics. You are the Lindsey Graham of the internet. Flip-flop, flip-flop. Trump has tried to obstruct the investigation from the start. He's refused to let the White House staff testify. Why is that? Those are the actions of a man unafraid. You deflect and deflect and try to make it about something else. There's a saying among lawyers, when you can't argue the facts argue the process. That's what's going on here and you damn well know it. How such a purported honorable man can turn a blind eye to justice is beyond normal comprehension. I can understand why a feeble minded lunatic like katman wallows in that shit. I cannot understand why you do. jd, YOU are blinded by hatred. there is NO proof--no FACTS--just accusations. A trial will decide the facts. Stop the lies---YOU have no proof--just opinions. Let the courts decide--then YOU will be proven wrong. rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Dec 9, 2019 22:15:31 GMT -5
And I'll repeat those facts. Trump bribed a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political rival that he is scared shitless of. The only people that don't know it's the truth are the ones refusing to look at the truth. But I believe that they know it too. I'm sure you know it. But they, and you, are willfully blind just because of politics. You are the Lindsey Graham of the internet. Flip-flop, flip-flop. Trump has tried to obstruct the investigation from the start. He's refused to let the White House staff testify. Why is that? Those are the actions of a man unafraid. You deflect and deflect and try to make it about something else. There's a saying among lawyers, when you can't argue the facts argue the process. That's what's going on here and you damn well know it. How such a purported honorable man can turn a blind eye to justice is beyond normal comprehension. I can understand why a feeble minded lunatic like katman wallows in that shit. I cannot understand why you do. jd, YOU are blinded by hatred. there is NO proof--no FACTS--just accusations. A trial will decide the facts. Stop the lies---YOU have no proof--just opinions. Let the courts decide--then YOU will be proven wrong. rr LMAO. ..... RR telling someone they are blinded by hate. Complaining about posting of no truth n no facts Kardman may be the biggest weirdo ...... but damn if ur not the biggest hypocrite I have seen.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Dec 9, 2019 23:04:04 GMT -5
Alright ill bite where and whfen was the bribe. Who took the bribe knowing it was a bribe? Who felt like it was a bribe if he or she didn't deliver? Did the money allocated by congress go where it was supposed to go within the legal time allocated. Who among the witnesses to the bribe ot bribe thoughts when asked thought the president did anything wrong or were witness to the crime. Did the president tell any of the witnesses that there would be no money without investigation of the bidens? Do you believe its obstruction if you refuse a subpoena under executive privilege but take it to court to resolve which btw is the constitutional remedy to a disagreement between the other two co equal branches. Do you believe that not allowing an accuser to tesftify is constitutional. Do you believe that not allowing a witness to id who he talked to after he said he didn't talk to the blower isnt obstruction. Did or didnt the president specifically say to the ambassador he wanted nothing in answer to that ambassadors question. In the phone call was withholding money ever in the conversation? In what context was the word favor used? Ill help there it was used directly talking about the past election
I guess if you think there is a bribe or obstruction there you can continue to be delusional about our justice system. No fact witnesses to build the case, no change of diplomatic or financial status or cohersion (spl?) no meetings withheld to provide investigation or dirt. No laws that i know of broken.
All that and he will be mpeached where the senate will acquit and not call any of the drivers of this debacle. Status quo for every lying sumbitch involved including if you believe him guilty the trumpster. Oney spent time spent american peeps get jack from two years of blue and red nonsense.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Dec 10, 2019 7:52:13 GMT -5
And I'll repeat those facts. Trump bribed a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political rival that he is scared shitless of. The only people that don't know it's the truth are the ones refusing to look at the truth. But I believe that they know it too. I'm sure you know it. But they, and you, are willfully blind just because of politics. You are the Lindsey Graham of the internet. Flip-flop, flip-flop. Trump has tried to obstruct the investigation from the start. He's refused to let the White House staff testify. Why is that? Those are the actions of a man unafraid. You deflect and deflect and try to make it about something else. There's a saying among lawyers, when you can't argue the facts argue the process. That's what's going on here and you damn well know it. How such a purported honorable man can turn a blind eye to justice is beyond normal comprehension. I can understand why a feeble minded lunatic like katman wallows in that shit. I cannot understand why you do. jd, YOU are blinded by hatred. there is NO proof--no FACTS--just accusations. A trial will decide the facts. Stop the lies---YOU have no proof--just opinions. Let the courts decide--then YOU will be proven wrong. rr I got no hatred. That's for your side of the aisle. I just going where the facts take me. Trump is guilty. The facts prove it beyond a reasonable doubt to anyone that blinded by politics. I agree that the GOP senate will not convict. That doesn't mean he's innocent. It just means that he gets to before a jury that's anything but impartial. In the real world those jurists would not be allowed to be on the jury because of their bias. I see the fact that those senators will not even look at the evidence as a disgrace. Your side of the aisle is proud of that very fact. You have always claimed to want the truth. I now realize that only means if it's not your guy.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Dec 10, 2019 8:01:25 GMT -5
Alright ill bite where and whfen was the bribe. Who took the bribe knowing it was a bribe? Who felt like it was a bribe if he or she didn't deliver? Did the money allocated by congress go where it was supposed to go within the legal time allocated. Who among the witnesses to the bribe ot bribe thoughts when asked thought the president did anything wrong or were witness to the crime. Did the president tell any of the witnesses that there would be no money without investigation of the bidens? Do you believe its obstruction if you refuse a subpoena under executive privilege but take it to court to resolve which btw is the constitutional remedy to a disagreement between the other two co equal branches. Do you believe that not allowing an accuser to tesftify is constitutional. Do you believe that not allowing a witness to id who he talked to after he said he didn't talk to the blower isnt obstruction. Did or didnt the president specifically say to the ambassador he wanted nothing in answer to that ambassadors question. In the phone call was withholding money ever in the conversation? In what context was the word favor used? Ill help there it was used directly talking about the past election I guess if you think there is a bribe or obstruction there you can continue to be delusional about our justice system. No fact witnesses to build the case, no change of diplomatic or financial status or cohersion (spl?) no meetings withheld to provide investigation or dirt. No laws that i know of broken. All that and he will be mpeached where the senate will acquit and not call any of the drivers of this debacle. Status quo for every lying sumbitch involved including if you believe him guilty the trumpster. Oney spent time spent american peeps get jack from two years of blue and red nonsense. Let's break this down very simply for the party that impeached a president for lying about sex. They wanted and needed the military money. The money was already appropriated. Trump withheld the money but told them that he would release the money if they would announce a public investigation of Biden. The very meaning of Quid Pro Quo is that you do this for me and I'll do this for you. This asinine thing you put forth about a bribe not being a bribe unless someone accepts the bribe is ludicrous. In your world you can go around bribing your way out of anything but as long as no one accepts your bribe you're innocent of bribery? That sound like something katman would say. And there are plenty of witnesses. But the witnesses that could possibly shed the most light has been ordered to not testify. And to you just rr, I find it unbelievable that you guys support the GOP senate that will not even look at facts. You want to talk about nonsense, they wouldn't even be allowed to serve on a jury in the real world because of bias. Flip-flopping Lindsey Graham is the face of your movement. But you guys are proud of that.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Dec 10, 2019 8:02:05 GMT -5
JD--you are making wild unproven claims. I thought you were honest and fact driven. Apparently not.
make believe and pretend are for fairy tales and those who lie.
I judged YOU incorrectly. Apparently it is "Your WAY or no way".
my oh my.
rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Dec 10, 2019 8:03:52 GMT -5
JD--you are making wild unproven claims. I thought you were honest and fact driven. Apparently not. make believe and pretend are for fairy tales and those who lie. I judged YOU incorrectly. Apparently it is "Your WAY or no way". my oh my. rr I'm not the one making wild unproven claims. That would be you.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Dec 10, 2019 9:30:18 GMT -5
JD--you are making wild unproven claims. I thought you were honest and fact driven. Apparently not. make believe and pretend are for fairy tales and those who lie. I judged YOU incorrectly. Apparently it is "Your WAY or no way". my oh my. rr Hoping ur saying this looking in a mirror an not to someone else. What u described ........ describes u perfectly. Noone on here fits the bill .......ur way or no way as well as u do.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Dec 10, 2019 14:19:38 GMT -5
JD posted a couple times-- "And I'll repeat those facts. Trump bribed a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political rival that he is scared shitless of. The only people that don't know it's the truth are the ones refusing to look at the truth. But I believe that they know it too. I'm sure you know it."But--NOT TRUE---and the dumbdems led by shiTT filed their articles of impeachment ---NO BRIBERY CHARGE!!! So, even the dumdems in DC now admit there was no Bribe by TRUMP. so--just another make believe from jd--sadly, jd bought into the fake claims and repeated them as FACT. sad, sad. NO BRIBE--so say dumdems in dc. rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Dec 10, 2019 18:14:58 GMT -5
JD posted a couple times-- "And I'll repeat those facts. Trump bribed a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political rival that he is scared shitless of. The only people that don't know it's the truth are the ones refusing to look at the truth. But I believe that they know it too. I'm sure you know it."But--NOT TRUE---and the dumbdems led by shiTT filed their articles of impeachment ---NO BRIBERY CHARGE!!! So, even the dumdems in DC now admit there was no Bribe by TRUMP. so--just another make believe from jd--sadly, jd bought into the fake claims and repeated them as FACT. sad, sad. NO BRIBE--so say dumdems in dc. rr My opinion on the Ukraine shit is Trump knows his only real threat is Biden. He knew there was shady shit with Biden in Ukraine. He called Ukraine and threw in to investigate Biden. When he did that Trump knows very well he has a lot of money in aide bei g held up n so does Ukraine pres. To say that wasnt in the background is foolish. Did Trump release the money .... .of course he did he had no choice at that point...... that shows Nothing. Was what he did impeachment worthy IMO no. Was it shady n bad form by a sitting POTUS absolutely! Was it bribery ..... more than likely yes..... can it be proven it was bribery no. Without first hand account or at least the true audio to at least hear how it was said. I would compare it to a man walks into a popcorn shop comes out with crumbs on his coat. . ... can I prove he ate popcorn ...... no. But Theres a REALLY good chance he did. You calling out JD for calling things facts that you dont agree with is one of the funniest things I have seen on this board. If this happened with Obama you would. E screaming your facts don't cease shit and Impeach with a few Russias thrown in a thousand times a day n you know it. Difference here is JD n I are both pretty much moderate to middle n recognize Shiff,Nadler, n Pelosi are garbage but also see McConnell n Graham are just as bad on the other side where as u wouldnt. I would hate to see u argue with Dems who are as far left as u are right ...... probably burst every vein in your head.
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