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Post by Streeter on Jan 20, 2020 19:32:43 GMT -5
So what does Trump n Mconnell do?
A. Mconnell calls to dismiss immediately..... this is what Pelsi wants as to try n use it to swing senate in 20.
B. Trump invokes exec privilege on Bolton and the former SOS. Another want of Pelosi to use against Trump in 20.
C. He allows witness n doesnt invoke privaledge........ that is highest ceiling for both Trump and Pelosi but also the lowest of basements for both. If they testify and do not condemn Trump in anyway ......Pelosi is done and 2020 ends with GOP in both houses n White House with trump getting a mandate. If they do condemn Trump any number of things could result From impeachment to seriously hurting Trump in 2020.
Personally I'm hoping for A. To get it over with. The precedent this shit has started is scary.
But if he let it fly and let Bolton testify ....... no clue what Bolton would do ..... hes a die hard Reagan goper but he also isnt exactly Trumps biggest fan at moment if reports are to be believed. Just hard to belive a die hard gop guy giving tbe Democrats the 2020 presidency. Who knows
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jan 20, 2020 19:37:08 GMT -5
Well with the public i think we all want it done people know its a sham and im tired of fair trial for who trump is due a fair trial not frikkin lazy ass house wanting a mulligan. Listen to house evidence listen to defense vote to dismiss
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 20, 2020 20:02:58 GMT -5
Well with the public i think we all want it done people know its a sham and im tired of fair trial for who trump is due a fair trial not frikkin lazy ass house wanting a mulligan. Listen to house evidence listen to defense vote to dismiss house never called Bolton because they wanted to force Trump to use priviledge to try n use it against him in 20. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jan 20, 2020 20:43:24 GMT -5
That is clearly privilege same as obama and his ag on the gun runnng scandal
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Jan 20, 2020 21:28:40 GMT -5
The most entertaining way to the result we all know is coming is preferable to me. Let the vindication Show Trial Begin. New Q drops today.  Virginia gun owners stood up to tieranny. HUGE day for America. This is what they want to do nationwide is to take our guns. Without the 2nd amendment, the others drop like birds and bees around 5G. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Jan 20, 2020 21:30:33 GMT -5
Well with the public i think we all want it done people know its a sham and im tired of fair trial for who trump is due a fair trial not frikkin lazy ass house wanting a mulligan. Listen to house evidence listen to defense vote to dismiss house never called Bolton because they wanted to force Trump to use priviledge to try n use it against him in 20. Trumps team never called....uh.........Oh thats right, he got to call no-one. Welcome to the Senate. The Senate was the key in 2018 |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 21, 2020 11:18:48 GMT -5
That is clearly privilege same as obama and his ag on the gun runnng scandal Pelosi never thought it had a chance this was to try n retake the Senate and hurt Trump in 20. They never asked for Bolton in house as they wanted that pressure on Sennate. What Pelosi doesn't want is for him to allow Bolton an others to testify. As that happens 1 wins big n the other loses big........ depending on what Bokton does. Does he really give the dems the 20 election or does he confirm what trump said an destroy Pelosi. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 21, 2020 12:13:10 GMT -5
Begins in 1 hour. I kind of want them to allow Bolton to testify as well as Hunter.
If Bolton confirms the quid pro quo and the gop can pin nothing on Hunter ..... the gop is decimated and likely in 20 the lose the senate and whitehouse. If Bolton confirms what Trump said and Hunter is found guilty with Joe Biden then Gop do clean sweep in 20 and get total control an Trump likely wins a mandate as well in 20. Also the decimation of Pelosis legacy as a long time house leader.
Then if Bolton and Hunter split then were basically back at start with both sides claiming victory.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jan 21, 2020 13:31:38 GMT -5
Begins in 1 hour. I kind of want them to allow Bolton to testify as well as Hunter. If Bolton confirms the quid pro quo and the gop can pin nothing on Hunter ..... the gop is decimated and likely in 20 the lose the senate and Whitehouse. If Bolton confirms what Trump said and Hunter is found guilty with Joe Biden then Gop do clean sweep in 20 and get total control an Trump likely wins a mandate as well in 20. Also the decimation of Pelosis legacy as a long time house leader. Then if Bolton and Hunter split then were basically back at start with both sides claiming victory. Only way the four that Dems want to testify is for the Court to say that the internal conversations etc. are not Executive privilege's, honestly privilege needs testing but I tend to think that the internal conversations that I'm quite sure are "spirited" with peeps jockeying for position and all sorts of things are discussed and debated. They and the president (whomever that is) have to be able to speak their minds without fear of retribution. I tend to think that dems are crapping their nest. On the other hand they could achieve absolute power and that's scary for all of us. No party (dems or repubs, or independents, socialist, et. al.) of these scumbags and reprobates should have that kind of power. I've enough problems with my better half who acts in my best interest controlling my life  much less a bunch of ass wipes that are only interested in their power. Bolton is about self-interest and influence, he ain't gonna get in the pig stye and implicate the President anyway the others are the same too. Another interesting thing that is not brought up much assume that four repub senators vote for witnesses and witness reciprocity, its very possible Jones out of Alabama and Mansion from West Virginia will vote the opposite in which case no witnesses. Mansion is kind of invulnerable in WVA as he is popular. Jones wont win Alabama or if its close and he votes against Trump he's done. Lots of odd dynamics going on as one might expect with a bunch of politicians. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jan 21, 2020 13:32:47 GMT -5
The most entertaining way to the result we all know is coming is preferable to me. Let the vindication Show Trial Begin. New Q drops today. Virginia gun owners stood up to tieranny. HUGE day for America. This is what they want to do nationwide is to take our guns. Without the 2nd amendment, the others drop like birds and bees around 5G. Comon Katman Q drops my ass they know as much as I do about this stuff, there is little if no expertise on impeachments |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jan 21, 2020 13:37:48 GMT -5
That is clearly privilege same as obama and his ag on the gun runnng scandal Pelosi never thought it had a chance this was to try n retake the Senate and hurt Trump in 20. They never asked for Bolton in house as they wanted that pressure on Sennate. What Pelosi doesn't want is for him to allow Bolton an others to testify. As that happens 1 wins big n the other loses big........ depending on what Bokton does. Does he really give the dems the 20 election or does he confirm what trump said an destroy Pelosi. Hell I vote for the destroy Pelosi Bolton is to far right to agree with anything she says or does. Bolton is a true hawk wants conflict with Russia and probably wanted to get the aid to Ukraine ASAP. We all keep forgetting Trump has delivered all funding and then some to the Ukraine, Obama San withheld true help, expect of course Joes bribe money. I'm sorta like you though see all of these folks called, got some damn good lawyers on the Repub side be interesting to watch the evisceration |
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Post by Katman on Jan 21, 2020 13:39:25 GMT -5
If you want to know about impeachments, you can just ask. A president can be voted on by the House of Representatives to remove a president they admit they cant beat by alleging a high crime or misdemeanor.
The House voted to impeach the most successful President in American History for no high crime, nor misdemeanor.
End result is {we already know}....Trump is our President. Now say goodbye to Millions of our tax dollars to state the obvious.
Show Trial
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 21, 2020 13:42:33 GMT -5
Begins in 1 hour. I kind of want them to allow Bolton to testify as well as Hunter. If Bolton confirms the quid pro quo and the gop can pin nothing on Hunter ..... the gop is decimated and likely in 20 the lose the senate and Whitehouse. If Bolton confirms what Trump said and Hunter is found guilty with Joe Biden then Gop do clean sweep in 20 and get total control an Trump likely wins a mandate as well in 20. Also the decimation of Pelosis legacy as a long time house leader. Then if Bolton and Hunter split then were basically back at start with both sides claiming victory. Only way the four that Dems want to testify is for the Court to say that the internal conversations etc. are not Executive privilege's, honestly privilege needs testing but I tend to think that the internal conversations that I'm quite sure are "spirited" with peeps jockeying for position and all sorts of things are discussed and debated. They and the president (whomever that is) have to be able to speak their minds without fear of retribution. I tend to think that dems are crapping their nest. On the other hand they could achieve absolute power and that's scary for all of us. No party (dems or repubs, or independents, socialist, et. al.) of these scumbags and reprobates should have that kind of power. I've enough problems with my better half who acts in my best interest controlling my life much less a bunch of ass wipes that are only interested in their power. Bolton is about self-interest and influence, he ain't gonna get in the pig stye and implicate the President anyway the others are the same too. Another interesting thing that is not brought up much assume that four repub senators vote for witnesses and witness reciprocity, its very possible Jones out of Alabama and Mansion from West Virginia will vote the opposite in which case no witnesses. Mansion is kind of invulnerable in WVA as he is popular. Jones wont win Alabama or if its close and he votes against Trump he's done. Lots of odd dynamics going on as one might expect with a bunch of politicians. I think Bolton is a big unknown. Hes known as both vindictive but also as a diehard republican. I too would lean towards Bolton not really condemning Trump and giving gov to dems in 20. But you never really know. I just want 4 witnesses Bolton, Hunter n Joe Biden, an Rudy. With those 4 I think we are able to close this mess 1 way or the other. As for the vote for witnesses they already have 3 gopers who are for it they need 1 more or maybe 2 more if a dem flips. |
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Post by houstoncat on Jan 21, 2020 13:59:56 GMT -5
Only way the four that Dems want to testify is for the Court to say that the internal conversations etc. are not Executive privilege's, honestly privilege needs testing but I tend to think that the internal conversations that I'm quite sure are "spirited" with peeps jockeying for position and all sorts of things are discussed and debated. They and the president (whomever that is) have to be able to speak their minds without fear of retribution. I tend to think that dems are crapping their nest. On the other hand they could achieve absolute power and that's scary for all of us. No party (dems or repubs, or independents, socialist, et. al.) of these scumbags and reprobates should have that kind of power. I've enough problems with my better half who acts in my best interest controlling my life much less a bunch of ass wipes that are only interested in their power. Bolton is about self-interest and influence, he ain't gonna get in the pig stye and implicate the President anyway the others are the same too. Another interesting thing that is not brought up much assume that four repub senators vote for witnesses and witness reciprocity, its very possible Jones out of Alabama and Mansion from West Virginia will vote the opposite in which case no witnesses. Mansion is kind of invulnerable in WVA as he is popular. Jones wont win Alabama or if its close and he votes against Trump he's done. Lots of odd dynamics going on as one might expect with a bunch of politicians. I think Bolton is a big unknown. Hes known as both vindictive but also as a diehard republican. I too would lean towards Bolton not really condemning Trump and giving gov to dems in 20. But you never really know. I just want 4 witnesses Bolton, Hunter n Joe Biden, an Rudy. With those 4 I think we are able to close this mess 1 way or the other. As for the vote for witnesses they already have 3 gopers who are for it they need 1 more or maybe 2 more if a dem flips. you right about Bolton, dude would castrate you if you crossed him question is would he do it knowing if sterilizes him from power |
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Post by Katman on Jan 21, 2020 14:00:57 GMT -5
Trump fired Boltons ass, Bolton's a war monger.
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much less a bunch of ass wipes that are only interested in their power.