Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Mar 15, 2020 15:49:40 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Mar 27, 2020 13:06:18 GMT -5
Been watching these games thanks for posting. One thing I've noticed in all the games no matter how good we might be, the other teams coaches are always intimated to be better and the other teams players better and the strategy better, wait we won most of 'em with all that. Very enjoyable RR thank you
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 31, 2005 11:35:30 GMT -5
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Post by Big Worm on Apr 1, 2020 19:36:32 GMT -5
Just watched the 2015 wisconsin game. How a team can get screwed out of a game in the final four like that is inexcusable. The constant holds on cutters by wiscy without a whistle... The missed shot clock violation... The blatant flop by Dekker on Kyle's post move... One call after another.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 1, 2005 0:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by mountainmutt on Jul 27, 2021 15:53:19 GMT -5
I have watched that damn Wisconson game at least a dozen times.
That loss was directly on Cal. Everyone makes mistakes and regrettable errors in their career, but Cal just f%@!ing gave Wisconsin the last 5 minutes of the game.
Ky had not played all that well over the first 30 minutes of the game, but they had regained their composure and had taken the game over from the 10 minute mark to the 5 minute mark.
Kentucky had built a 5 point lead and more importantly Towns had taken over on the offensive end. He had,as I recall, 25 at that point and he was getting 4 footers everytime the guards fed him the ball.
Then at 5 minutes, the twins, in their typical fashion decided that they were going to be the stars.
Two unforced twin turnovers and a couple of bad prayers thrown up as the shot clock would down. Towns never touched the ball a single time during that stretch.
If Ulis had been on the floor, UK would have won by 12 to 15 points. He was the best ball handler, free throw shooter, play maker and defensive player on the team.
Ulis would have fed Towns on every trip, made it hell on the Wisconsin ball handler, and he would have knocked down his free throws when Wisconsin would have had to start fouling at around the 2:30 mark and UK up by 10 or so.
A sickening game.
r
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jul 27, 2021 15:59:09 GMT -5
I have watched that damn Wisconson game at least a dozen times. That loss was directly on Cal. Everyone makes mistakes and regrettable errors in their career, but Cal just f%@!ing gave Wisconsin the last 5 minutes of the game. Ky had not played all that well over the first 30 minutes of the game, but they had regained their composure and had taken the game over from the 10 minute mark to the 5 minute mark. Kentucky had built a 5 point lead and more importantly Towns had taken over on the offensive end. He had,as I recall, 25 at that point and he was getting 4 footers everytime the guards fed him the ball. Then at 5 minutes, the twins, in their typical fashion decided that they were going to be the stars. Two unforced twin turnovers and a couple of bad prayers thrown up as the shot clock would down. Towns never touched the ball a single time during that stretch. If Ulis had been on the floor, UK would have won by 12 to 15 points. He was the best ball handler, free throw shooter, play maker and defensive player on the team. Ulis would have fed Towns on every trip, made it hell on the Wisconsin ball handler, and he would have knocked down his free throws when Wisconsin would have had to start fouling at around the 2:30 mark and UK up by 10 or so. A sickening game. r Completely right. And, sadly, bloatedego has failed to reach a final four since. HIS failure to coach and lead created what he has grown into a total fiasco, as witnessed by all the losses and pathetic events of last season. That was the greatest college b'ball team ever assembled--and his pathetic coaching resulted in a loss clutched from victory. HE has never been the same since--the fire in the belly and care for UK has waned and actually blown out. Sad--but true. Pulling a teflonturd these past 6 seasons--with almost identical results over that period. rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 1, 2005 0:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by mountainmutt on Jul 27, 2021 16:02:58 GMT -5
The 2017 rooferee game is a tough one to watch as well. That was the most blatant cheating I've seen a referee attempt in such marquee event like the elite 8.I think UK had the best team in 2017.
I honestly believe UK had the best team in the country in 2010 (another head scratcher, Cousins and big Pat should have been fed the ball on every trip, instead we get 30 three attemps). That was shot final four with Duke playing Butler. What a break for K.
The 2019 team was the best. Elite 8 loss to Auburn after destroying them all year.
2020 was the best in the country
Not so bad when you think about it.UK had the beast team in 2010, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2019 and 2020.
They went to the final four in 2011 and 2014. The 2011 team was good enough to win it. The 2014 team had a lot of injuries but I still think they were better than UCONN.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 1, 2005 0:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by mountainmutt on Jul 27, 2021 16:06:37 GMT -5
Cal has consistently produced great teams but he has personally failed to close the deal on 2 or 3 championships that we should have won.
K did the same at Duke in the 90s.
Cal is young enough to redeem himself, but he is due.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 1, 2005 0:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by mountainmutt on Jul 27, 2021 16:13:53 GMT -5
Back to the topic.
The most painful losses in my lifetime.
1975 UCLA NCAA Championship. That was a great UK team and they were the best team.
1977 UNC Elite 8. UK had the best team but Hall got schooled by Dean Smith
1984 Georgetown Final 4. At the time it seemed like UK was way better in retrospect Ewing was a terrific player.
1992 Duke biggest heartache ever.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jul 27, 2021 16:16:30 GMT -5
1966 Rupps Runts is by far the worst loss since Rupp became head coach. Changed all the dialogue after scum feinstein wrote his make believe book, and degraded Rupp and the players.
WORST UK loss ever.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 19, 2006 15:04:55 GMT -5
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Post by stevem on Apr 16, 2022 19:44:00 GMT -5
1966 Rupps Runts is by far the worst loss since Rupp became head coach. Changed all the dialogue after scum feinstein wrote his make believe book, and degraded Rupp and the players. WORST UK loss ever. rr Undoubtedly the worst loss in UK history. Nothing else comes close.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 13, 2004 12:24:56 GMT -5
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Post by bnewt on Sept 26, 2022 7:16:57 GMT -5
I have watched that damn Wisconson game at least a dozen times. That loss was directly on Cal. Everyone makes mistakes and regrettable errors in their career, but Cal just f%@!ing gave Wisconsin the last 5 minutes of the game. Ky had not played all that well over the first 30 minutes of the game, but they had regained their composure and had taken the game over from the 10 minute mark to the 5 minute mark. Kentucky had built a 5 point lead and more importantly Towns had taken over on the offensive end. He had,as I recall, 25 at that point and he was getting 4 footers everytime the guards fed him the ball. Then at 5 minutes, the twins, in their typical fashion decided that they were going to be the stars. Two unforced twin turnovers and a couple of bad prayers thrown up as the shot clock would down. Towns never touched the ball a single time during that stretch. If Ulis had been on the floor, UK would have won by 12 to 15 points. He was the best ball handler, free throw shooter, play maker and defensive player on the team. Ulis would have fed Towns on every trip, made it hell on the Wisconsin ball handler, and he would have knocked down his free throws when Wisconsin would have had to start fouling at around the 2:30 mark and UK up by 10 or so. A sickening game. r exactly, ccc let the twins throw this game away, he let them try to be hero's but turned into zeros just a prime example of ccc's inability to coach as you stated, KAT was dominant, yet NO ONE was smart enough to get him the ball. Just absolutely pathetic........a 40-0 record & NCAA title just given away I would like to thing that UK would have beaten Duke, but K seemed to have ccc's # & was certainly a better coach
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 13, 2004 12:24:56 GMT -5
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Post by bnewt on Sept 26, 2022 7:22:03 GMT -5
The 2017 rooferee game is a tough one to watch as well. That was the most blatant cheating I've seen a referee attempt in such marquee event like the elite 8.I think UK had the best team in 2017. I honestly believe UK had the best team in the country in 2010 (another head scratcher, Cousins and big Pat should have been fed the ball on every trip, instead we get 30 three attemps). That was shot final four with Duke playing Butler. What a break for K. The 2019 team was the best. Elite 8 loss to Auburn after destroying them all year. 2020 was the best in the country Not so bad when you think about it.UK had the beast team in 2010, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2019 and 2020. They went to the final four in 2011 and 2014. The 2011 team was good enough to win it. The 2014 team had a lot of injuries but I still think they were better than UCONN. 2010 the 1st example of ccc's inability to coach. Huggy played a zone & UK was totally lost & still is to this day ccc still has not learned how to play against a zone defense & never will all of the teams you listed, are more examples of the lacking of coaching UConn's guards were just too quick for UK, yet ccc had them playing man to man all game, just allowing UConn's guards to drive to the goal or be fouled Just stupid, play a zone, try trapping, anything to get the ball out of those quick guards hands & make someone else beat you
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Sept 26, 2022 7:28:40 GMT -5
2015 was the beginning of the decline.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 1, 2005 0:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by mountainmutt on Sept 26, 2022 8:38:00 GMT -5
The 1966 game was very uncharacteristic of Rupp. No racism meant but Kentucky was a far ore talented team than their opponent. Not a player on that El Paso team could have made the UK starting five, most could not make an SEC starting five. Kentucky was loaded with Pros in the day that there were few pro teams.
Rupp did the one thing that he preached against most, he allowed El Paso to dominate the tempo and once they gain a little bit of a lead, Rupp tried matching up with them rather than roiling them over.
Cal did the same thing last year against St Peters. I call it the compensation approach. When you have the most talented team by a large margin as UK did in both games, you make them match up with you.
The instinct when you get behind is to matchup with your opponent, I have been guilty of it myself. The think to remember is that a basketball game lasts a long time, the first half means very little as long as you keep the margin with 10 or 12 points,
Eventually, the less talented team will tire and their shooting percentage will fade under relentless defense. The more talented team will eventually break the other team's will, the lucky shots will begin to fall short, mistakes will become the norm and as the smothering nature of excellent defensive technique, back board domination and consistent execution of a brilliantly designed offence sets will create easy shots trip after trip. Much like an anaconda smothers its prey, a more talented team that sticks with their style of play will slowly recover from a slow start and the consistent precision execution of the more talented team will regain control of the game and usually pull away for a double digit win.
Rupp for some reason, perhaps his disbelief at the way the game started or the understanding that the game was going to be poorly refereed resulted resulted in him trying to win playing the other team's style. This approach is the root cause of most major upsets.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 21, 2019 12:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiddlingone on Sept 26, 2022 8:56:25 GMT -5
The 1966 game was very uncharacteristic of Rupp. No racism meant but Kentucky was a far ore talented team than their opponent. Not a player on that El Paso team could have made the UK starting five, most could not make an SEC starting five. Kentucky was loaded with Pros in the day that there were few pro teams. Rupp did the one thing that he preached against most, he allowed El Paso to dominate the tempo and once they gain a little bit of a lead, Rupp tried matching up with them rather than roiling them over. Cal did the same thing last year against St Peters. I call it the compensation approach. When you have the most talented team by a large margin as UK did in both games, you make them match up with you. The instinct when you get behind is to matchup with your opponent, I have been guilty of it myself. The think to remember is that a basketball game lasts a long time, the first half means very little as long as you keep the margin with 10 or 12 points, Eventually, the less talented team will tire and their shooting percentage will fade under relentless defense. The more talented team will eventually break the other team's will, the lucky shots will begin to fall short, mistakes will become the norm and as the smothering nature of excellent defensive technique, back board domination and consistent execution of a brilliantly designed offence sets will create easy shots trip after trip. Much like an anaconda smothers its prey, a more talented team that sticks with their style of play will slowly recover from a slow start and the consistent precision execution of the more talented team will regain control of the game and usually pull away for a double digit win. Rupp for some reason, perhaps his disbelief at the way the game started or the understanding that the game was going to be poorly refereed resulted resulted in him trying to win playing the other team's style. This approach is the root cause of most major upsets. I think I have read that flu was running through the team at that time. Probably some guys were sick.
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