Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Aug 7, 2015 9:18:07 GMT -5
Trump looked like a fish out of water... his fizzle is about to begin. Rand Paul was sharp but was too involved with the crowd and got too carried away. Jeb came off as a wet blanket looking to just not really make a mistake. Christie was solid. I came away by far most impressed with Rubio. Thinking I might indeed vote for Rubio as he actually looks like he would be a great canidate and one that could make a run at the Clinton machine. Highly intelligent, articilate, doesn't get rattled, stays on point, actually has ideas not just rally points, and quick thinking on his feet. Very impressed with Rubio. Rand Paul is still my favorite but Rubio just became a close second ..... Rubio would get florida, the south west. To win the white house the gop needs Florida, Ohio, and Colorado or Wisky Rubio has a,shot.
IMO rubio, Carson, and Christie were the best in the debate. With Rubio doing the most for himself and at the very least all but nailing down a running mate gig with Jeb or Walker. Walker was actually good but I just don't like him much. Jeb was boring and wasn't impressed, Paul was dissapoint, and Trump was about as bad as I figured.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Aug 7, 2015 9:24:38 GMT -5
I actually liked Ben Carson, but a decent "real" person like him has no shot in the mud heap that is our political system.
Realistically, Jeb Bush will end up with the nomination. Rand Paul wont get the nomination. Trump is a sideshow in the whole thing. Rubio was solid.
Let's just hope they can get out of each others way. To me, the only thing Trump managed to do was piss off Rosie O'Donnell. It was funny though. I think Donald Trump had a good time.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Aug 7, 2015 9:36:04 GMT -5
I only saw bits and pieces, but Carson does seem a solid guy from what I've seen of him, but like Katman, I don't see him getting the nomination.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Aug 7, 2015 10:48:28 GMT -5
Trump was set up---and handled the pre-meditated attacks by the moderators with smooth aplomb. Drudge Report poll of 500,000 voters has Trump with 45%, Cruz 14%, Rubio 10%, Carson 9%. fatboy lowlife christie 1% was at the bottom of the poll and leftwing bush was 2nd worst at 2%. www.drudgereport.com/now.htmrr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Aug 7, 2015 10:56:07 GMT -5
Why is it that the Crats pretty much already know who is running for them and the GOP hasn't a clue?
I mean, the Crats could roll out a flat inner tube on a broken pallet with a forklift spewing oil and it would probably get enough votes to win the election. This country is falling apart.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Aug 7, 2015 13:45:37 GMT -5
I enjoyed the debate (along with about 24 million other people). I found that there are many solid candidates who could go on to beat Hillary and do a fine job at cleaning up this mess. Trump was baited by the moderators, for sure. He took the bait and lost his cool a few times. But I don't think it matters. That's Trump. His anti-establishment message remains. I think the decision by Fox to attack not only Trump, but several others, will backfire on them.
Ben Carson has performed 4 surgeries on my son, including the hemispherectomy (removal of half the brain) he mentioned in his closing. I've know him for years. He's a smart, thoughtful, ethical, & very religious man. I wish he could win the thing, but I'm doubtful.
There was a clear winner and clear loser yesterday. Some of the others helped themselves a bit, and some hurt themselves (most of the early debate participants).
Winner: Carly Fiorino Loser: Rand Paul
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Aug 7, 2015 13:56:23 GMT -5
Women have run countries before. As long as it isn't Clinton.
I'm OK with Fiorino getting the nomination. I don't see it happening though.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Aug 7, 2015 14:18:14 GMT -5
By winner, I mean I think Carly earned her way into the big-boy debate. She was superb.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Aug 7, 2015 15:40:21 GMT -5
I enjoyed the debate (along with about 24 million other people). I found that there are many solid candidates who could go on to beat Hillary and do a fine job at cleaning up this mess. Trump was baited by the moderators, for sure. He took the bait and lost his cool a few times. But I don't think it matters. That's Trump. His anti-establishment message remains. I think the decision by Fox to attack not only Trump, but several others, will backfire on them. Ben Carson has performed 4 surgeries on my son, including the hemispherectomy (removal of half the brain) he mentioned in his closing. I've know him for years. He's a smart, thoughtful, ethical, & very religious man. I wish he could win the thing, but I'm doubtful. There was a clear winner and clear loser yesterday. Some of the others helped themselves a bit, and some hurt themselves (most of the early debate participants). Winner: Carly Fiorino Loser: Rand Paul Good analysis ! I don't agree with Carly being the big winner but she did impress no doubt. Ben Carson I liked a lot as well he just seems like way too nice of a guy to even be in this and far too honest and decent -- those are things that really killed Romney in 2012. Fox is going after Trump for obvious reasons -- every second he remains relevant it hurts the GOP winning the white house. The Odds are it's either Walker or Jeb as thats who has the big money as far as the Pacs go and the big donators - I really hope someone else steps up as neither of them are really worth a lick. Rubio really came on at least to me last night as being a true player - he is Young , well spoken, LATINO, and most importantly has incredible poise and doesn't get rattled. Was so disspointed with Rand Paul - I love his stanc eon foreign policy and would vote for him on that alone but the man shot himself in the foot last night being over zealos and just came off as not that classy. The ticket that CAN and IMO WOULD win the white house for the GOP is a Rubio/Walker ticket. Rubio gets florida AND a HUUUUUGGGGEEEE chunk of the latino vote which is the highest next to the white vote and they WOULD come out in DROVES like the blacks for Obama - this assures the GOP the entire south west maybe an outside shot at Cali but doubtful. Walker gets you Wisconsin -- then the GOP only really has to focus HARD on 1 state -- OHIO!!! unless they could swing Penn but the GOP just isn't going to take Penn so they need Ohio. All that said it will most likely be a Jeb Bush ticket and if he is smart which he is he picks Walker or Kasish as VP. But I just think Rubio would be the much better choice as with the number of Latinos you don't just get Florida with Rubio his names alone helps across the board. I know I am labeled left of Michael Moore on here ... honestly while I am democrat I think i am more to the center than the left. as suck I really hop you guys can get a good ticket like Rubio - anything to have something better than Hillary. ETA: my dream ticket for the GOP would be Rubio / Kasish -- I like both and hell even as a democrat I might donate time for that campaign.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Aug 7, 2015 18:19:54 GMT -5
kasich IS a democrat--now!!! soft--feely good--PC--common core--gay "marriage"---pro gubment!!!
Time for a LEADER to take charge and make the USA great--again!!
end welfare--end common core--end PC---end aid to planned "parenthood"--end the EPA--end the NEA---end over burdened TAXES--end fed gubment CONTROL---end nsa info gathering---end obamacare---end deal with iran---end aid to UN--end the IRS--end TAXES on corporations--end the DEATH tax
Become significant on the world stage--support LIFE--support domestic energy sources---support a DOMINANT MILITARY---support the ten COMMANDMENTS--support individual self reliance--support productivity--support gun ownership---support USA goodness--support USA power!!!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Aug 7, 2015 20:30:28 GMT -5
kasich IS a democrat--now!!! soft--feely good--PC--common core--gay "marriage"---pro gubment!!! Time for a LEADER to take charge and make the USA great--again!! end welfare--end common core--end PC---end aid to planned "parenthood"--end the EPA--end the NEA---end over burdened TAXES--end fed gubment CONTROL---end nsa info gathering---end obamacare---end deal with iran---end aid to UN--end the IRS--end TAXES on corporations--end the DEATH tax Become significant on the world stage--support LIFE--support domestic energy sources---support a DOMINANT MILITARY---support the ten COMMANDMENTS--support individual self reliance--support productivity--support gun ownership---support USA goodness--support USA power!!! rr No wonder you support Trump as you still have yet to grasp the concept of complete sentences or complex thought. Cheer the guy that brings nothing to the table but rally points and zingers he has so much in common with you.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Aug 7, 2015 20:42:16 GMT -5
kasich IS a democrat--now!!! soft--feely good--PC--common core--gay "marriage"---pro gubment!!! Time for a LEADER to take charge and make the USA great--again!! end welfare--end common core--end PC---end aid to planned "parenthood"--end the EPA--end the NEA---end over burdened TAXES--end fed gubment CONTROL---end nsa info gathering---end obamacare---end deal with iran---end aid to UN--end the IRS--end TAXES on corporations--end the DEATH tax Become significant on the world stage--support LIFE--support domestic energy sources---support a DOMINANT MILITARY---support the ten COMMANDMENTS--support individual self reliance--support productivity--support gun ownership---support USA goodness--support USA power!!! rr No wonder you support Trump as you still have yet to grasp the concept of complete sentences or complex thought. Cheer the guy that brings nothing to the table but rally points and zingers he has so much in common with you. ..quite frankly, why?....why would a yank liberal, such as yourself, care 2 bits about a GOP debate this early in the season?....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Aug 7, 2015 20:57:48 GMT -5
No wonder you support Trump as you still have yet to grasp the concept of complete sentences or complex thought. Cheer the guy that brings nothing to the table but rally points and zingers he has so much in common with you. ..quite frankly, why?....why would a yank liberal, such as yourself, care 2 bits about a GOP debate this early in the season?.... I know you don't believe me but I really don't want Hillary for 4 or even 8 years. I was hoping for Rand Paul based almost solely on his foregn policy but I came away from the debates pretty impressed with Rubio. I know you think I am left of Michael Moore - whatever ! I do think Hillary will do the opposite of what her "husband" says out of simply spite. And Bill Clintons presidency didn't take off untill he told "baby" to stand in the corner and STFU. I am confident I know more about HRC than anyone on this board beign where I am from and who I talk to ---- to know I want basically anyone other than Trump or Cruz to beat her.. and Yes I am a LIBERAL and YES a DEmocrat. Okay maybe not Bernie either as he is as wacko left as RR and maybe others are wacko right.
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Post by Des Moines Rugby on Aug 8, 2015 5:32:41 GMT -5
I don't pick a candidate based on some contrived debate....I chose not to watch it because it was setup like a circus ala Jerry Springer.....I still support Rand Paul because his stances are aligned with mine....I do like Dr. Carson a lot...I've listened to numerous interviews he has given....as far as the rest Rubio would be a good VP to groom for the future...
Trump, Christie are clowns and rr is right Kasich is a Dem....Jeb Bush is just another Bush...Do we really need another Bush in the White House?...hell no....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Aug 8, 2015 5:56:47 GMT -5
I agree with opinions that come from both sides. But then again, we don't need SIDES.....we need leadership to get our nation out of the crapper.
I normally vote Republican, but I don't agree with everything the Republicans generally run on. Democrats are too aggressively changing America (slow down) but I agree with some of their stances on personal freedoms.
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