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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Nov 1, 2018 15:43:15 GMT -5
Just wondering. Mine is a small industry, but I'm hearing rumblings that Chinese manufacturers are starting to outsource lighting products to Viet Nam to avoid the tariffs. If so, I'm wondering what other products, and if we have anything in place to watch things like that.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Nov 1, 2018 20:23:53 GMT -5
Trump will put tariffs on vietnam if they aid china in their efforts to circumvent FAIR TRADE!!
No longer is a globalist pussy occupying the USA Presidency!!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Nov 2, 2018 10:54:58 GMT -5
I read somewhere that China was outsourcing production of Nike shoes to N. Korea - maybe I read that here!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 2, 2018 12:24:07 GMT -5
North Korea, an arm of the deep state cut off by Trump.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 4, 2018 22:54:26 GMT -5
Since u all are so hung ho on these tariffs explain how they help Americans.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Nov 5, 2018 6:37:24 GMT -5
Since u all are so hung ho on these tariffs explain how they help Americans. I have mixed feelings on tariffs, but I can tell you how trade with China has effected me and my industry personally. First off, I'm in a low tech industry where wages were never going to be high pay because they don't call for highly skilled people, but we need those jobs to. Everybody is not going to be college educated and/or highly skilled. Those people need to work to. I've always paid all I could afford and gave/give bonuses when I made money. Chinese products have wiped out 90% of our industry. It wiped out 90% plus of my USA suppliers (steel/cloth the main 2)(there are still certain items I literally can not get in the USA), but they are slowly starting to come back. I used to have 7 or 8 "jobbers" a day come by in large box trucks to pick up goods. They had to buy and maintain those trucks. They were on the road selling, putting gas in those trucks, staying in motels, and eating. They had warehouses/employees. They have 98% disappeared. There used to be a lot of people like me, I'm among the last of a dying breed, but there are a few like me opening back up again. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 5, 2018 7:44:51 GMT -5
Since u all are so hung ho on these tariffs explain how they help Americans. JOBS JOBS JOBS Domestic industries benefit from a reduction in competition, since import prices are artificially inflated. NOT MOBS MOBS MOBS |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 5, 2018 21:51:28 GMT -5
So making good more expensive for Americans adds jobs an is great for the economy. If America was still a manufacturing giant I would agree long term. But we are not anywhere near that any longer.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Nov 6, 2018 6:24:30 GMT -5
Maybe someone thinks we can make America great again? It's complicated, but no one has clean hands in the demise. Industry, workers and unions, consumers, and especially politicians.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 6, 2018 8:00:47 GMT -5
So making good more expensive for Americans adds jobs an is great for the economy. If America was still a manufacturing giant I would agree long term. But we are not anywhere near that any longer. They are coming back. The jobs never stopped, they were just moved off shore. Trump is bringing manufacturing back. American wages are going up. Anyone who wants a job can have one. Americans are getting off food stamps...ect.... Promises made, promises kept. I cant tell if you think that is good news or not. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 6, 2018 10:23:47 GMT -5
So making good more expensive for Americans adds jobs an is great for the economy. If America was still a manufacturing giant I would agree long term. But we are not anywhere near that any longer. They are coming back. The jobs never stopped, they were just moved off shore. Trump is bringing manufacturing back. American wages are going up. Anyone who wants a job can have one. Americans are getting off food stamps...ect.... Promises made, promises kept. I cant tell if you think that is good news or not. promises kept huh ....... lmfaoo Obamacare nada, wall nada, Hillary in jail nada, NAFTA still in place, but we got tariffs that hurt much more than help as only a fool would think manufacturing is ever coming back. We get "tax cuts" that we hen people get there tax returns they will see was really no tax cut at all as while folks get 20 to 30 more in check they will owe a lot more end of year. But hey the corporations got richer an thats what counts. No fear the big BLUEE wave of sanity rolls in tonight get ya surf boards ready. Take back senate n house ab make certain trump doesn't have chance to hurt this country more. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 6, 2018 12:08:22 GMT -5
They are coming back. The jobs never stopped, they were just moved off shore. Trump is bringing manufacturing back. American wages are going up. Anyone who wants a job can have one. Americans are getting off food stamps...ect.... Promises made, promises kept. I cant tell if you think that is good news or not. promises kept huh ....... lmfaoo Obamacare nada, wall nada, Hillary in jail nada, NAFTA still in place, but we got tariffs that hurt much more than help as only a fool would think manufacturing is ever coming back. We get "tax cuts" that we hen people get there tax returns they will see was really no tax cut at all as while folks get 20 to 30 more in check they will owe a lot more end of year. But hey the corporations got richer an thats what counts. No fear the big BLUEE wave of sanity rolls in tonight get ya surf boards ready. Take back senate n house ab make certain trump doesn't have chance to hurt this country more. One is either for American sovereignty or for globalism. You've made your choice for your kids. I hope you/they dont have to live with it. If you cant see the accomplishments of Trump, then you are willfully blind. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 6, 2018 18:09:43 GMT -5
promises kept huh ....... lmfaoo Obamacare nada, wall nada, Hillary in jail nada, NAFTA still in place, but we got tariffs that hurt much more than help as only a fool would think manufacturing is ever coming back. We get "tax cuts" that we hen people get there tax returns they will see was really no tax cut at all as while folks get 20 to 30 more in check they will owe a lot more end of year. But hey the corporations got richer an thats what counts. No fear the big BLUEE wave of sanity rolls in tonight get ya surf boards ready. Take back senate n house ab make certain trump doesn't have chance to hurt this country more. One is either for American sovereignty or for globalism. You've made your choice for your kids. I hope you/they dont have to live with it. If you cant see the accomplishments of Trump, then you are willfully blind. no u are truly blind seeing only what u want to see. GOP might very well hold both houses ur u have hitched it wagon to the far right end of the American political spectrum. Me I'm in the middle. Tell me when has being an extremist like u clearly are ever been right? When u are an extremist like urself u rarely ever see anything other than what u want to. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 6, 2018 18:18:11 GMT -5
One is either for American sovereignty or for globalism. You've made your choice for your kids. I hope you/they dont have to live with it. If you cant see the accomplishments of Trump, then you are willfully blind. no u are truly blind seeing only what u want to see. GOP might very well hold both houses ur u have hitched it wagon to the far right end of the American political spectrum. Me I'm in the middle. Tell me when has being an extremist like u clearly are ever been right? When u are an extremist like urself u rarely ever see anything other than what u want to. The extremists are the Democrat/Republican/Socialists/Globalists using the Mockingbird media as a weapon in the mode of propaganda. See example[your take on the political landscape] You react exactly like the Mockingbird media [You attack] the messenger. Trump isnt your enemy: The enemy is who you will see exposed after the FISA declass. Will you wake up then....who knows.I doubt it. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 6, 2018 18:30:54 GMT -5
no u are truly blind seeing only what u want to see. GOP might very well hold both houses ur u have hitched it wagon to the far right end of the American political spectrum. Me I'm in the middle. Tell me when has being an extremist like u clearly are ever been right? When u are an extremist like urself u rarely ever see anything other than what u want to. The extremists are the Democrat/Republican/Socialists/Globalists using the Mockingbird media as a weapon in the mode of propaganda. See example[your take on the political landscape] You react exactly like the Mockingbird media [You attack] the messenger. Trump isnt your enemy: The enemy is who you will see exposed after the FISA declass. Will you wake up then....who knows.I doubt it. all u have done is label ..... globalist...... socialists etc. Yet u blame the dems. Which yeah many far leftist do the exact same stupid shit as the far right extreme like urself. I voted Braun over Donnely dumbass. I vote who I think the best person I'd regardless of party. I voted Trump in 16 mostly because I hated Hillary but because I want moderation not stupid far any way politics. But I am labeled by folks like urself as a socialist. Yet u call us the labbelers so yeah I started labeling u as well. |
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