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Post by Streeter on Jan 31, 2019 20:59:04 GMT -5
streeter---total bullsh!t rr u should watch farenheit 11/9 re loaded with FACTS .....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 31, 2019 21:10:42 GMT -5
fiddling--only if he has to do a "TASTE TEST" each time he inspects---twice a day required!! rr It can't be a true test without him tasting it. Since it would be a gov job, he would need a bloated staff to help him and confirm accurate tests. Warren, Schumer, and Pelosi could join his staff. Hey while ur at it let's let the Republican scum that ran Michigan be forced to do a taste test of the Flint water every time they drink for life.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jan 31, 2019 21:25:23 GMT -5
streeter--total bullsh!t!!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 31, 2019 23:17:07 GMT -5
streeter--total bullsh!t!! rr actually there is a lot of facts in that docu movie but u wouldnt agree with them so u would just go on another delusional conspiracy like tirade. As u refuse to acknowledge FACTS u dont agree with. Fact . Bernie is dangerous as his past statements are disturbing. He may have changed his views like he says but he is an extremist or at least there is a risk. But he is for education an healthcare for all which I support. As A. People without great insurance shouldn't have their lives ruined financially if they go to the hospital etc. B. Poor kids shouldn't have to go into hundreds of thousand in debt to get a college education , C. Kids in poor areas shouldn't receive a piss poor education in ele, middle , hs. Hopefully a better candidate will emerge than Bernie.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Feb 1, 2019 6:32:51 GMT -5
It can't be a true test without him tasting it. Since it would be a gov job, he would need a bloated staff to help him and confirm accurate tests. Warren, Schumer, and Pelosi could join his staff. Hey while ur at it let's let the Republican scum that ran Michigan be forced to do a taste test of the Flint water every time they drink for life. I distrust all professional politicians, but as a conservative, if I have 2 choices (liberal or conservative), I will err on the conservative side every time.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Feb 1, 2019 10:35:38 GMT -5
It simple guys
You cant have my country
You cant have my Guns
And I dont want your handouts.
If you think for ONE SECOND I'm gonna surrender my guns to a government that doesn't think twice about slaughtering a helpless baby, You've absolutely lost your damn mind.
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Post by Riley on Feb 1, 2019 13:40:33 GMT -5
...Bernie would have this country busted in less than a year...oh wait, obamer already did that....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Feb 1, 2019 17:44:46 GMT -5
I dont agree with everything he stands for but I agree with enough to at least vote him over Trump. 3 of the biggest problems in this country are Healthcare costs, cost of college, and education in general. Healthcare costs is to a point where 1 trip to the hospital can financially ruin a family the costs are so outrageous its comical. University costs are insane even an un state school will cost u 20 to 25 grand a year , a good school 35 to 60 grand a year. Kids are so in debt when they graduate it takes so long to get straight. The education un this country is shameful when the US greatest country in the world has a education system behind even some third world countries. The only one that would really battle these issues is Bernie. I dont agree with everything he does but he is maybe what the country needs after the trashing to this country Trump has done. Bernie 2020 We spend more per n taxes then anywhere in the world. No result or medioctre ones so lets spend a lot more while somone goes to ivy league u majors in art and cant get a job or goes to an expensive private school to teach where the cost/s low those are not our issues kids get loans and parents for that matter knowing the loans need paid ive no sympathy free education gets the country no return on its investment
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Feb 2, 2019 14:58:40 GMT -5
I dont agree with everything he stands for but I agree with enough to at least vote him over Trump. 3 of the biggest problems in this country are Healthcare costs, cost of college, and education in general. Healthcare costs is to a point where 1 trip to the hospital can financially ruin a family the costs are so outrageous its comical. University costs are insane even an un state school will cost u 20 to 25 grand a year , a good school 35 to 60 grand a year. Kids are so in debt when they graduate it takes so long to get straight. The education un this country is shameful when the US greatest country in the world has a education system behind even some third world countries. The only one that would really battle these issues is Bernie. I dont agree with everything he does but he is maybe what the country needs after the trashing to this country Trump has done. Bernie 2020 We spend more per n taxes then anywhere in the world. No result or medioctre ones so lets spend a lot more while somone goes to ivy league u majors in art and cant get a job or goes to an expensive private school to teach where the cost/s low those are not our issues kids get loans and parents for that matter knowing the loans need paid ive no sympathy free education gets the country no return on its investment you are wrong pretty much everywhere in this. A. We do not pay the most per in taxes not even close .... nomadcapitalist.com/2017/08/07/countries-with-the-highest-tax/In corporate taxes we have 3rd highest rate but in taxes per person arent even top 15. B. U give the most extreme of circumstance in student loans when the fact is most people who go to college dont have parents who can afford all or even most of it. After college they are starting at around 100k or more in debt qhen starting out. The cost of college especially these days is ridiculous high especially for even an average university. Either offer free university education to students or at least cut the costs of public college. Free university for kids get the country ALOT of return on investment I would be willing to co.pronise n say free education to people who are citizens and born in the US. the is much return on investment as u are investing in the kids the future of the country. Seeing only current dollar signs here is short sighted at least n oblivious an ignorant at most. C. Healthcare ...... if u dont have a great healthcare plan or very well off an u need to go to the hospital u are hit so hard financially u either go bankrupt or at best takes u years to recover.
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Post by fiddling on Feb 2, 2019 15:07:24 GMT -5
We spend more per n taxes then anywhere in the world. No result or medioctre ones so lets spend a lot more while somone goes to ivy league u majors in art and cant get a job or goes to an expensive private school to teach where the cost/s low those are not our issues kids get loans and parents for that matter knowing the loans need paid ive no sympathy free education gets the country no return on its investment you are wrong pretty much everywhere in this. A. We do not pay the most per in taxes not even close .... nomadcapitalist.com/2017/08/07/countries-with-the-highest-tax/B. U give the most extreme of circumstance in student loans when the fact is most people who go to college dont have parents who can afford all or even most of it. After college they are starting at around 100k or more in debt qhen starting out. The cost of college especially these days is ridiculous high especially for even an average university. Either offer free university education to students or at least cut the costs of public college. C. Healthcare ...... if u dont have a great healthcare plan or very well off an u need to go to the hospital u are hit so hard financially u either go bankrupt or at best takes u years to recover. Let's say we do free healthcare. Does it follow that the gov then regulates individual diet, exercise, health habits, etc? Just wondering how someone who wants free healthcare views that aspect?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Feb 2, 2019 15:28:45 GMT -5
I was unclear obviously i was speaking of education per student. It is not extreme a kid can still go to a state school and not go totally in debt that can even be cut going to regional schools or junior college for a couple of years. If a school is accredited in an area of study the base education is the same those that want to suceed mae the most of the educational opportunities. You may have to borrow some but you can lmit or control that. The point is its not my responsibility to pay for joe publics kids education when they take out loans that they planly cant pay back. When you look st the student debt now its obvious that the people had little or no intent to meet the losn requirements. Nothing is free you get taxed at ever increasing rates
Concerning healthcare about 8 percent of the overall economy is healthcare cost was about 3:5 trillion or 18% of the GDP thats about twice the average for developed countries 1.5 trillion of that is direct government expense
These fools are wanting to more then double that toa single payer system. Doing away with benefits provided by employers fo 75% of the country. That will bank rupt us and provide inferior care fewer doctors and a huge downturn in living standard. The ACA was supposed to guarantee healthcare for all cheaper and accessable at the time 30 million or so were uninsured now the costs have gone up up up no improvment in standards and we have 30 million uninsured it dont work and cost people more a free market economy drives innovation snd competition in all areas schools healthcare small business. Federal health spending has grownby 230% since 2000 prices only 40% and the economy by only 90%. Clearly what the gubment is doing related to healthcare does not work and is unsustaianable even without additional load
So called free aint a solution its piece of candy floatng by hogwarts magic in front of people who think they are entitled to everything and everyones treasure. We probably should rename socialism to the Robin Hood Plan
I am fortunate i will retire soon my wife and i worked hard to get here. We planned early for our daughters education i have had to change jobs several times over the years due to buyouts, loss of contracts, personnel layoffs etc. right now i work for the gubment almost three months a year thats my adjusted gross. We pay our fair share as do most of the folks here. We help those who cant through our taxes that the gubment squanders. Government sponsered those loans, encouraged them even for those that given their natural gifts has no shot to suceed and went deep in a hole. Now proposed socialicist wants one more piece of candy they want us to pay for that is in no way possible given our GDP and projected GDP. This trajectory politically has not ever worked the schism between the haves and have nots will get far worse
Hell man i got no issue with a true liberal but im tired of people saying trump is the problem the country has thrived under him hes attempting to address issues that the horse asses and old elephants keep kicking down the road with constant continuing resolutions. Is he a great president with high moral character? Of course not please... but he calls it the way it is with these jerks around the world and the floatsum we keep electing
By the way given the higher rates in those countries why arent people moving there?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Feb 2, 2019 15:29:56 GMT -5
you are wrong pretty much everywhere in this. A. We do not pay the most per in taxes not even close .... nomadcapitalist.com/2017/08/07/countries-with-the-highest-tax/B. U give the most extreme of circumstance in student loans when the fact is most people who go to college dont have parents who can afford all or even most of it. After college they are starting at around 100k or more in debt qhen starting out. The cost of college especially these days is ridiculous high especially for even an average university. Either offer free university education to students or at least cut the costs of public college. C. Healthcare ...... if u dont have a great healthcare plan or very well off an u need to go to the hospital u are hit so hard financially u either go bankrupt or at best takes u years to recover. Let's say we do free healthcare. Does it follow that the gov then regulates individual diet, exercise, health habits, etc? Just wondering how someone who wants free healthcare views that aspect? personally I would be for free healthcare with caveats. If u get lung cancer or heart attack n you smoke a pack a day, if it 300 lbs an get diabetes or heart attack , an p vious things where the person is at fault should not come with no cost. Thi gs that are not obviously self brought on should at minimum not cost a family or individual financial ruin either. Honestly it doesnt need to be single payer universal care it needs to be something to not cripple people who get sick without a Cadillac plan.
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Post by fiddling on Feb 2, 2019 15:39:33 GMT -5
Let's say we do free healthcare. Does it follow that the gov then regulates individual diet, exercise, health habits, etc? Just wondering how someone who wants free healthcare views that aspect? personally I would be for free healthcare with caveats. If u get lung cancer or heart attack n you smoke a pack a day, if it 300 lbs an get diabetes or heart attack , an p vious things where the person is at fault should not come with no cost. Thi gs that are not obviously self brought on should at minimum not cost a family or individual financial ruin either. Honestly it doesnt need to be single payer universal care it needs to be something to not cripple people who get sick without a Cadillac plan. I would agree that more affordable healthcare should be a goal. I just don't know the best way to go about it. More and bigger gov is rarely the correct answer to anything.
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Post by houstoncat on Feb 2, 2019 16:03:15 GMT -5
you are wrong pretty much everywhere in this. A. We do not pay the most per in taxes not even close .... nomadcapitalist.com/2017/08/07/countries-with-the-highest-tax/B. U give the most extreme of circumstance in student loans when the fact is most people who go to college dont have parents who can afford all or even most of it. After college they are starting at around 100k or more in debt qhen starting out. The cost of college especially these days is ridiculous high especially for even an average university. Either offer free university education to students or at least cut the costs of public college. C. Healthcare ...... if u dont have a great healthcare plan or very well off an u need to go to the hospital u are hit so hard financially u either go bankrupt or at best takes u years to recover. Let's say we do free healthcare. Does it follow that the gov then regulates individual diet, exercise, health habits, etc? Just wondering how someone who wants free healthcare views that aspect? They tell you who and where to go and what you can get for treatment if any
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Post by Streeter on Feb 2, 2019 17:15:32 GMT -5
I was unclear obviously i was speaking of education per student. It is not extreme a kid can still go to a state school and not go totally in debt that can even be cut going to regional schools or junior college for a couple of years. If a school is accredited in an area of study the base education is the same those that want to suceed mae the most of the educational opportunities. You may have to borrow some but you can lmit or control that. The point is its not my responsibility to pay for joe publics kids education when they take out loans that they planly cant pay back. When you look st the student debt now its obvious that the people had little or no intent to meet the losn requirements. Nothing is free you get taxed at ever increasing rates Concerning healthcare about 8 percent of the overall economy is healthcare cost was about 3:5 trillion or 18% of the GDP thats about twice the average for developed countries 1.5 trillion of that is direct government expense These fools are wanting to more then double that toa single payer system. Doing away with benefits provided by employers fo 75% of the country. That will bank rupt us and provide inferior care fewer doctors and a huge downturn in living standard. The ACA was supposed to guarantee healthcare for all cheaper and accessable at the time 30 million or so were uninsured now the costs have gone up up up no improvment in standards and we have 30 million uninsured it dont work and cost people more a free market economy drives innovation snd competition in all areas schools healthcare small business. Federal health spending has grownby 230% since 2000 prices only 40% and the economy by only 90%. Clearly what the gubment is doing related to healthcare does not work and is unsustaianable even without additional load So called free aint a solution its piece of candy floatng by hogwarts magic in front of people who think they are entitled to everything and everyones treasure. We probably should rename socialism to the Robin Hood Plan I am fortunate i will retire soon my wife and i worked hard to get here. We planned early for our daughters education i have had to change jobs several times over the years due to buyouts, loss of contracts, personnel layoffs etc. right now i work for the gubment almost three months a year thats my adjusted gross. We pay our fair share as do most of the folks here. We help those who cant through our taxes that the gubment squanders. Government sponsered those loans, encouraged them even for those that given their natural gifts has no shot to suceed and went deep in a hole. Now proposed socialicist wants one more piece of candy they want us to pay for that is in no way possible given our GDP and projected GDP. This trajectory politically has not ever worked the schism between the haves and have nots will get far worse Hell man i got no issue with a true liberal but im tired of people saying trump is the problem the country has thrived under him hes attempting to address issues that the horse asses and old elephants keep kicking down the road with constant continuing resolutions. Is he a great president with high moral character? Of course not please... but he calls it the way it is with these jerks around the world and the floatsum we keep electing By the way given the higher rates in those countries why arent people moving there? a kid going to an in state school even a shitty one say Northern ky aka No Knowledge college 9s still 9200 a year in state for tuition plus another 6 to 7k for em an board. Say u get a job for 20hrs a week that covers food an random shit it's still 13 yo 14 k a year an ur looking at 50k debt out of school even from a shit school like nku.
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