Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Sept 25, 2019 9:48:35 GMT -5
This matters not. Doesnt matter if or what Trump did ,admitted to , or whatever. Fact is this ends up helping Trump an dumb by the Pelosi crew. Just stupid. Put a opponent worth a damn to beat Trump....... yet no we get 2 socialist n a alzheimers patient. Trump is easy to beat but the dems literally attack the deck to ensure another trump win. Should tell folks the dems want A Trump win. Sad as it may seem There you have it Streeter, find a candidate that doesn't want to change our whole way of life, a descent human being who doesn't pontificate and elect him/her/it . Simply find a better candidate the rest will take care of itself. Right now all of these congressional and senate shills are trying to get reelected after one of the most unproductive houses in the past 100 years, they have done nothing with regard to immigration, environment, homelessness, or healthcare...nothing to even start addressing that other then whatever position Trump has taken they take the opposite even if his proposals meeting their past criteria.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Sept 25, 2019 9:51:00 GMT -5
Yes, if you want corruption out of government and a sovereign nation..Trump "was" the worst choice. Trump 2020-2024-2028 What the hell is that Katman thank God we don't elect prez for three terms. That's just weird
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Sept 25, 2019 9:51:48 GMT -5
I guess the reasoning is that you might as well put a crook in to fight the crooks? That would seem to be the QKK mantra.
But I agree with streeter on the impeachment. Dems should hold off on it. They won't get a conviction from the right wingnuts in the senate and all it will do is empower the alt-right which is the decision maker of the GOP.
Just let Trump keep shooting himself in the foot and he will lose the election on his own.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 21, 2019 12:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiddlingone on Sept 25, 2019 11:41:49 GMT -5
I agree the D's would have a better chance with a middle of the road candidate. As is, it appears to me (and I think a lot of people) that the extreme portion of the party has either taken or is taking control. You and JD protest, but I'm telling you what it seems like to me and most people I deal with on a daily basis. Maybe you are right that it's not true, but it does seem that way to a lot of people. It seems that way because of media bias. But the extremists have taken over the GOP. But there is not a real distinguishing difference between the parties anymore. Both have their nuts and the nuts are the ones in the news. The GOP just happened to get their worst of the worst elected. I don't like or trust any politician. I am registered as an R, but I am a conservative. I care no more about an R (or a D) than they care about me. If I were a middle of the road D, I'd sure be worried about the reputation the liberal media and the AOC types are giving the party though, even if you are right about the base not being so far left as it appears.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Sept 25, 2019 11:50:41 GMT -5
Did you read the phone call transcript, JD?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Sept 25, 2019 12:49:10 GMT -5
If that's the legit transcript theres not much there. You can look at it from a certain light I guess....... which they are n make it sound like they want. But you GOP n especially the qkk crew do exact same shit on other end. As a centrist n not looking thru either lense there really isn't much there other than projection/conjecture.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Sept 25, 2019 13:12:58 GMT -5
If that's the legit transcript theres not much there. You can look at it from a certain light I guess....... which they are n make it sound like they want. But you GOP n especially the qkk crew do exact same shit on other end. As a centrist n not looking thru either lense there really isn't much there other than projection/conjecture. If you look st it in the context of Barrs and durhams investigation it makes sense for trump to ask the ukraine to cooperate. I.e. the corruption in the old ukraine regieme. Binden and son would be part of that investigation albeit im not sure how much just a link in the chain. If dems insist on wasting time and energy let em i suspect this will die quickly. The whistle blower aint one got the conversation from another mole. By doing what he did he may have outed the mole i guarantee hes gonna be askjed who it was and im not sure that person is protected. This would be comical if the toots of it were not so dobolical. Dems do i think get rid of biden thats a headache the leftist base is probably gladof that. Games. Continue
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Sept 25, 2019 13:19:39 GMT -5
I felt the same way, Street.
I'm wondering if this whole thing wasn't an attempt by some Dem hopefuls to get rid of Biden. I suppose there was potential for a twofer: Trump & Biden.
We'll see how this affects the impeachment crew - I don't think Nancy and many others truly felt impeachment was a prudent political move. Maybe this gives them an out. We shall see.
JD, have you read the transcript?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Sept 25, 2019 13:39:40 GMT -5
I felt the same way, Street. I'm wondering if this whole thing wasn't an attempt by some Dem hopefuls to get rid of Biden. I suppose there was potential for a twofer: Trump & Biden. We'll see how this affects the impeachment crew - I don't think Nancy and many others truly felt impeachment was a prudent political move. Maybe this gives them an out. We shall see. JD, have you read the transcript? Yes. Looks like extortion to me. Most definitely quid pro quo. They are all smart enough to get the message across without explicitly saying it. We were at a Happy Feet fund raiser last night. At our table was our Judge Executive, County Court Clerk, Sheriff, assistant DA and a city cop. All republicans. To a person they were appalled at this latest Trump stunt. But I’m still in agreement with Streeter that he should not be impeached. We don’t need that circus and he wouldn’t be convicted anyway.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Sept 25, 2019 13:54:05 GMT -5
I want Trump out but the right way n voted out. Ideally for a REAL democrat to come out n do away with the wackos in Bernie n Liz an mr foot in mouf Biden. ....... I could live with Biden as hes a true Moderate at heart.
This impeachment shit is getting out of control n in long run ends up helping Trump like it did Clinton.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Sept 25, 2019 14:14:13 GMT -5
We will know tommorow if there is something there when the DNI testifies tommorow. He is said to of threatened to resign if White house doesnt let him speak freely so that makes me think there might be something more here. Who knows.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Sept 25, 2019 14:18:16 GMT -5
We will know tommorow if there is something there when the DNI testifies tommorow. He is said to of threatened to resign if White house doesnt let him speak freely so that makes me think there might be something more here. Who knows. What about all those indictments “coming”? They still “coming”? Must have been sent by Pony Express. 😂
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Sept 25, 2019 17:29:08 GMT -5
JD just curious is Biden guilty of the same thing ?
He aint getting impeached it a waste of time and energy.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Sept 25, 2019 18:10:29 GMT -5
We will know tommorow if there is something there when the DNI testifies tommorow. He is said to of threatened to resign if White house doesnt let him speak freely so that makes me think there might be something more here. Who knows. What about all those indictments “coming”? They still “coming”? Must have been sent by Pony Express. 😂 Hillary , Comey, McaCabe being fitted with orange jumpsuits right now. Its happening
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Sept 25, 2019 18:16:55 GMT -5
So a question sessions recused himself from the russian deal do dens running for president recuse themselves from either house or more importantly senate who would judge afterall they would be judging to affect an election. Just curious of course
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