Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Sept 25, 2019 18:46:31 GMT -5
We will know tommorow if there is something there when the DNI testifies tommorow. He is said to of threatened to resign if White house doesnt let him speak freely so that makes me think there might be something more here. Who knows. Thats been debunked but that being said he should testify without fear of reprisal he is supposed to speak freely
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Sept 25, 2019 18:52:34 GMT -5
Yes, if you want corruption out of government and a sovereign nation..Trump "was" the worst choice. Trump 2020-2024-2028 What the hell is that Katman thank God we don't elect prez for three terms. That's just weird Trump Jr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 27, 2006 22:41:35 GMT -5
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Post by smyrnacat on Sept 25, 2019 21:29:29 GMT -5
So, let me get this straight, it's ok for a sitting president to conspire to bring the entire intelligence community against a political rival to try to ensure he is defeated but it's an impeachable offense for another sitting president to have a phone call with another head of state asking him to look into the politically shady dealings of the son of a former vice president? Am I the only one who thinks the two aren't even close to comparable? Trump Derangement Syndrome has hit a new level of absurdity. Can you imagine the outcry from the Dims if the Republicans had tried to impeach their patron saint Obama over things that were much worse than anything Trump has done.
I'm afraid, my friends, we are in the process of dividing the country into two parts from which there will be no healing or compromise. I find it fascinating how liberals want government (and by default, them) to make decisions for everyone's live simply because they are so much smarter and more enlightened than everyone else. It's all about power and money (the liberals want all of yours so they can take their share and give the rest to others). Funny how none of the liberals have given up all of their worldly possessions to help the poor and impoverished. I'm so grateful my faith is in Christ and not in politics or politicians.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Sept 25, 2019 22:34:15 GMT -5
So, let me get this straight, it's ok for a sitting president to conspire to bring the entire intelligence community against a political rival to try to ensure he is defeated but it's an impeachable offense for another sitting president to have a phone call with another head of state asking him to look into the politically shady dealings of the son of a former vice president? Am I the only one who thinks the two aren't even close to comparable? Trump Derangement Syndrome has hit a new level of absurdity. Can you imagine the outcry from the Dims if the Republicans had tried to impeach their patron saint Obama over things that were much worse than anything Trump has done. I'm afraid, my friends, we are in the process of dividing the country into two parts from which there will be no healing or compromise. I find it fascinating how liberals want government (and by default, them) to make decisions for everyone's live simply because they are so much smarter and more enlightened than everyone else. It's all about power and money (the liberals want all of yours so they can take their share and give the rest to others). Funny how none of the liberals have given up all of their worldly possessions to help the poor and impoverished. I'm so grateful my faith is in Christ and not in politics or politicians. The times are biblical right now. Enlightenment is here. You Are seeing the exposure of corruption and evil.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Sept 26, 2019 5:59:40 GMT -5
There's the old stand by argument from the alt-right, "OK, my guy is guilty as hell but it's OK because other people have done the same before and not gotten caught or prosecuted. So lay off my guilty guy. He should go free because others went free"
The absolute most idiotic argument known to man but it's so predictable that the right wing nuts will use it.
"Well yes, Trump is immoral, but Clinton was too so it's OK"
You can go on and on with that nonsense. I recently got a ticket for running a stop sign at a Y down the road from me. No one ever stops at the stop sign. I don't know why I didn't just use thje Trump defense, "officer, I know I ran it but everyone runs it".
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Sept 26, 2019 7:03:40 GMT -5
After 3 years of Democrats and their lawyers harassing the president, 40+ MILLION dollars of our money spent on a political hit, they have nothing on our leader. YOU KNOW WHY? Get ready JD, America is back... Deal with it.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Sept 26, 2019 8:05:45 GMT -5
After 3 years of Democrats and their lawyers harassing the president, 40+ MILLION dollars of our money spent on a political hit, they have nothing on our leader. YOU KNOW WHY? Get ready JD, America is back... Deal with it. America is not back because America never went anywhere. America was great before Trump ever made that treasonous statement that it wasn't. And I will agree that America is great enough to withstand Trump and we will make it through this dark time. Trump can't take us down.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Sept 26, 2019 9:11:03 GMT -5
Well I do agree with JD on America is not back it never went anywhere.
Treason however is a strong statement, so perhaps the several Dems running for prez who said it was never that great anyway should be charged with Treason. Inflamatory statement used as election rhetoric but hardly to the level of treason
America had lost much prestiege from the Bush through the Obama years, we had fairly stagnant growth, and were kissing butt all over the world. That has changed.
Look I get it, Trump is a lightening rod, he is not a politician, but Dem leadership is hypocritical, Pelosi pontificated on Repubs being after Clinton during his hearings for personal reasons, Nadler went on his step stool or maybe derrick to hold him up and preached about impeachment of Clinton overthrowing an elected president and negating your and my votes. Shoe is on other foot now and fundamentally we are looking at the same thing. Now we have to go through this crap which BTW Pelosi is by passing the house vote to protect her newbies elected in trump district. Nothing has changed nothing will change even if tried in the house he will not be convicted in the Senate..won't happen Just a waste of time and effort with no real attempt to drive a descent budget, really do something positive on healthcare for folks that have trouble affording, and continue to kick the can on meaningful immigration reform.
If folks don't like Trump they will vote him out. That's the way its supposed to be. Not this vindictive crap. If, as I think most folk think, while he might be a dirtwad as a human being he has been a good president by driving things that will help improve everyone lot. He is more into personal empowerment not power to control as the leftist are.
I don't know if he will get reelected or not. Still lots to come out on Comey et. al., and evidently reaming referrals on the Obama Judiciary and Intelligence (that being said until that comes out we won't know that for sure maybe nothing. We also don't know what the Durham-Barr Investigations will do.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Sept 26, 2019 9:27:15 GMT -5
Well I do agree with JD on America is not back it never went anywhere. Treason however is a strong statement, so perhaps the several Dems running for prez who said it was never that great anyway should be charged with Treason. Inflamatory statement used as election rhetoric but hardly to the level of treason America had lost much prestiege from the Bush through the Obama years, we had fairly stagnant growth, and were kissing butt all over the world. That has changed. Look I get it, Trump is a lightening rod, he is not a politician, but Dem leadership is hypocritical, Pelosi pontificated on Repubs being after Clinton during his hearings for personal reasons, Nadler went on his step stool or maybe derrick to hold him up and preached about impeachment of Clinton overthrowing an elected president and negating your and my votes. Shoe is on other foot now and fundamentally we are looking at the same thing. Now we have to go through this crap which BTW Pelosi is by passing the house vote to protect her newbies elected in trump district. Nothing has changed nothing will change even if tried in the house he will not be convicted in the Senate..won't happen Just a waste of time and effort with no real attempt to drive a descent budget, really do something positive on healthcare for folks that have trouble affording, and continue to kick the can on meaningful immigration reform. If folks don't like Trump they will vote him out. That's the way its supposed to be. Not this vindictive crap. If, as I think most folk think, while he might be a dirtwad as a human being he has been a good president by driving things that will help improve everyone lot. He is more into personal empowerment not power to control as the leftist are. I don't know if he will get reelected or not. Still lots to come out on Comey et. al., and evidently reaming referrals on the Obama Judiciary and Intelligence (that being said until that comes out we won't know that for sure maybe nothing. We also don't know what the Durham-Barr Investigations will do. There's the alt-right argument again. "OK, my guy may be wrong but others said it too so it's OK". I cannot and will not subscribe to such nonsense. If a democrat said America wasn't a great country then they were just as wrong as Trump. But the commies love them some Trump. At least you Trumpers have that going for you. Commies and the QKK, a match made in heaven!!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Sept 26, 2019 10:22:34 GMT -5
"There's the alt-right argument again. 'OK, my guy may be wrong but others said it too so it's OK'."
This argument is useful in that it points out hypocrisy. Beyond that, it carries little weight. It is not an uniquely alt-right argument - both parties use it, and use it often. To suggest otherwise is biased and untrue.
If Trump broke the law, he should pay the price. This is related to Biden, for the same should apply to him. I'm not sure either broke the law, but it appears both will be investigated. Or maybe they won't. Regardless, the bickering, name-calling, and other slap-fights will continue - that's the real nonsense.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Sept 26, 2019 11:23:48 GMT -5
"There's the alt-right argument again. 'OK, my guy may be wrong but others said it too so it's OK'." This argument is useful in that it points out hypocrisy. Beyond that, it carries little weight. It is not an uniquely alt-right argument - both parties use it, and use it often. To suggest otherwise is biased and untrue. If Trump broke the law, he should pay the price. This is related to Biden, for the same should apply to him. I'm not sure either broke the law, but it appears both will be investigated. Or maybe they won't. Regardless, the bickering, name-calling, and other slap-fights will continue - that's the real nonsense. Does hypocrisy even need to be pointed out? Everyone except Faux News and the QKK know hypocrisy when they see it. And those people wouldn't know the truth if the truth walked up and introduced itself to them. Most people are in the middle and reasonable. That's both parties. There's not that many extreme nuts on the left like the Antifa/GreenDeal crowd and there's not that many extreme nuts on the right like the alt-right/QKK. It just happens those people are the loudest of each party and certainly the most active in social media. It's funny they both claim they won't be "shouted down" while they are trying to shout down.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Sept 26, 2019 12:24:31 GMT -5
"Everyone except Faux News and the QKK know hypocrisy when they see it." Really? Everyone? Everyone except Fox and Q-cult? "It's funny they both claim they won't be "shouted down" while they are trying to shout down." - hypocrites.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Sept 26, 2019 12:54:25 GMT -5
There's the old stand by argument from the alt-right, "OK, my guy is guilty as hell but it's OK because other people have done the same before and not gotten caught or prosecuted. So lay off my guilty guy. He should go free because others went free" The absolute most idiotic argument known to man but it's so predictable that the right wing nuts will use it. "Well yes, Trump is immoral, but Clinton was too so it's OK" You can go on and on with that nonsense. I recently got a ticket for running a stop sign at a Y down the road from me. No one ever stops at the stop sign. I don't know why I didn't just use thje Trump defense, "officer, I know I ran it but everyone runs it". ...the other day you said you were sitting at a table of republicans ie..county attornery, judge executive, council members and etc and they agreed with you on some Trump matter...but they sure didn't agree with the stop sign ticket....what happened?....gonna take it to court?...
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Sept 26, 2019 16:53:16 GMT -5
There's the old stand by argument from the alt-right, "OK, my guy is guilty as hell but it's OK because other people have done the same before and not gotten caught or prosecuted. So lay off my guilty guy. He should go free because others went free" The absolute most idiotic argument known to man but it's so predictable that the right wing nuts will use it. "Well yes, Trump is immoral, but Clinton was too so it's OK" You can go on and on with that nonsense. I recently got a ticket for running a stop sign at a Y down the road from me. No one ever stops at the stop sign. I don't know why I didn't just use thje Trump defense, "officer, I know I ran it but everyone runs it". ...the other day you said you were sitting at a table of republicans ie..county attornery, judge executive, council members and etc and they agreed with you on some Trump matter...but they sure didn't agree with the stop sign ticket....what happened?....gonna take it to court?... That’s not what I said. You are misquoting me.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Sept 26, 2019 17:12:18 GMT -5
...the other day you said you were sitting at a table of republicans ie..county attornery, judge executive, council members and etc and they agreed with you on some Trump matter...but they sure didn't agree with the stop sign ticket....what happened?....gonna take it to court?... That’s not what I said. You are misquoting me. ..quite frankly, I don't give a dam what ticket you get...but here's your quote....." We were at a Happy Feet fund raiser last night. At our table was our Judge Executive, County Court Clerk, Sheriff, assistant DA and a city cop. All republicans. To a person they were appalled at this latest Trump stunt." ….what I put in my post was pretty close to what you posted...hey, f%@! it, it was just a joke about your ticket but see you don't like jokes.....
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