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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Nov 14, 2019 8:46:01 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 14, 2019 10:41:28 GMT -5
Nothing will happen IMO to Biden untill right before Super Tuesday. I cant stand Trump but it is obvious that Biden n Son committed crimes here in using office VP office for financial an or family gains. Biden should pay but so should Trump
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Nov 14, 2019 10:58:19 GMT -5
If we threw out every politician who used his/her office for personal financial gain, it'd be awfully quiet in the House and Senate. (Which would be fine with me.) Why spend so much on an election campaign for a job that pays so little? This is simply a part of the institution - and has been since the creation of government. Like it or not, most politicians desire money and power; and they have never been known for their morals.
Such corruption isn't, btw, limited to the upper tiers of government....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Nov 14, 2019 11:43:44 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 14, 2019 13:24:59 GMT -5
If we threw out every politician who used his/her office for personal financial gain, it'd be awfully quiet in the House and Senate. (Which would be fine with me.) Why spend so much on an election campaign for a job that pays so little? This is simply a part of the institution - and has been since the creation of government. Like it or not, most politicians desire money and power; and they have never been known for their morals. Such corruption isn't, btw, limited to the upper tiers of government.... I cant agree with that excuse and its part of the problem. Maybe we should throw out all that use political offices for personal gain then just maybe we get people in that focus on their jobs and not fattening their pockets. U dont justify wrong doing on the basis others do it too. If that was the case noone ever again should get a speeding ticket or ever get arrested. People arent in politics for the money they are in it for the Power. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 14, 2019 13:26:59 GMT -5
Power back to the people.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Nov 14, 2019 13:40:16 GMT -5
If crimes are truly committed then people should go to jail. Just like you or me.
Trump will get re-elected unless he really steps on it which could happen I suppose. Dems better come up with a better line-up for 2024 though, I think Niki Halley will run and if the frikkin RNC is honest she has a chance to be a real strong candidate - good pedigree as governor and as UN Ambassador. Dems will have AOC..if she gets re-elected (damn that's scary that air-head wouldn't be able to find her way out of the White House)
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Nov 14, 2019 15:06:44 GMT -5
If we threw out every politician who used his/her office for personal financial gain, it'd be awfully quiet in the House and Senate. (Which would be fine with me.) Why spend so much on an election campaign for a job that pays so little? This is simply a part of the institution - and has been since the creation of government. Like it or not, most politicians desire money and power; and they have never been known for their morals. Such corruption isn't, btw, limited to the upper tiers of government.... I cant agree with that excuse and its part of the problem. Maybe we should throw out all that use political offices for personal gain then just maybe we get people in that focus on their jobs and not fattening their pockets. U dont justify wrong doing on the basis others do it too. If that was the case noone ever again should get a speeding ticket or ever get arrested. People arent in politics for the money they are in it for the Power. I stated facts - no excuses or justifications. And I clearly stated that politicians desire money AND power. You say: People arent in politics for the money they are in it for the Power. And you also say: ...focus on their jobs and not fattening their pockets. You seem to be confused. Yes, we should hold politicians accountable for their actions, especially criminal actions. But rarely has that happened in history. Hopefully that will change. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Nov 14, 2019 15:30:45 GMT -5
I will go back to my original premise, we should fire 'em all, pass term limits of 3-2 year terms for reps, 1-six year term for the senate. Rotate, them out every 2 years like the senate. Don't allow cross-over from one house to another. Keep the president at 2 four year teams max.
There are I suppose a few good reps and senators, both sides but less then a handful I think.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 14, 2019 17:13:40 GMT -5
If crimes are truly committed then people should go to jail. Just like you or me. Trump will get re-elected unless he really steps on it which could happen I suppose. Dems better come up with a better line-up for 2024 though, I think Niki Halley will run and if the frikkin RNC is honest she has a chance to be a real strong candidate - good pedigree as governor and as UN Ambassador. Dems will have AOC..if she gets re-elected (damn that's scary that air-head wouldn't be able to find her way out of the White House) Hey we could get Bernie and AOC in 2020. Let that sink in |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 21, 2019 12:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiddlingone on Nov 14, 2019 17:32:04 GMT -5
If crimes are truly committed then people should go to jail. Just like you or me. Trump will get re-elected unless he really steps on it which could happen I suppose. Dems better come up with a better line-up for 2024 though, I think Niki Halley will run and if the frikkin RNC is honest she has a chance to be a real strong candidate - good pedigree as governor and as UN Ambassador. Dems will have AOC..if she gets re-elected (damn that's scary that air-head wouldn't be able to find her way out of the White House) Hey we could get Bernie and AOC in 2020. Let that sink in A statement like that and you wonder how we conservatives are concerned about who is going to control the D party? |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 14, 2019 18:33:24 GMT -5
Hey we could get Bernie and AOC in 2020. Let that sink in A statement like that and you wonder how we conservatives are concerned about who is going to control the D party? just saying that's worst case scenario for conservatives. Just Like Trump was in 16. I in no way want those 2 in power I would even rather take Trump. I am saying cons would be acting same to that whitehouse as the Dems are to Trump. But the cons would be all for impeachment by any means needed of both. Not agreeing with it just saying. Noone thought Trump had any real chance either ...... untill he did. Best movie quote I ever heard ....."a person is smart....... people are stupid" |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: May 25, 2002 20:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by fiddling on Nov 14, 2019 18:53:43 GMT -5
A statement like that and you wonder how we conservatives are concerned about who is going to control the D party? just saying that's worst case scenario for conservatives. Just Like Trump was in 16. I in no way want those 2 in power I would even rather take Trump. I am saying cons would be acting same to that whitehouse as the Dems are to Trump. But the cons would be all for impeachment by any means needed of both. Not agreeing with it just saying. Noone thought Trump had any real chance either ...... untill he did. Best movie quote I ever heard ....."a person is smart....... people are stupid" I know you don't want Sanders/AOC, but that you even mention it as a possibility reinforces my worries where the party is headed. |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Nov 14, 2019 19:14:39 GMT -5
If crimes are truly committed then people should go to jail. Just like you or me. Trump will get re-elected unless he really steps on it which could happen I suppose. Dems better come up with a better line-up for 2024 though, I think Niki Halley will run and if the frikkin RNC is honest she has a chance to be a real strong candidate - good pedigree as governor and as UN Ambassador. Dems will have AOC..if she gets re-elected (damn that's scary that air-head wouldn't be able to find her way out of the White House) Hey we could get Bernie and AOC in 2020. Let that sink in  |
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