Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jan 27, 2020 21:53:33 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Jan 28, 2020 12:48:14 GMT -5
....I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants getting assistance as long as they ain't sending money back home and pay taxes like we are...
....it's the ILLEGAL immigrants here that I don't like receiving assistance from the taxpayers just so liberals can garner their votes....
...the illegals have it better than a very large percentage of Americans...and it's being done just for the vote...
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 28, 2020 12:54:50 GMT -5
....I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants getting assistance as long as they ain't sending money back home and pay taxes like we are... ....it's the ILLEGAL immigrants here that I don't like receiving assistance from the taxpayers just so liberals can garner their votes.... ...the illegals have it better than a very large percentage of Americans...and it's being done just for the vote... What about "illegals " that have been here a long time , have full time job and pay taxes . What about them? I know a few folks who have been here 20 to 30 years illegally. They have jobs and pay taxes. What would u do with that lot just send um back too?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Jan 28, 2020 12:57:30 GMT -5
....I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants getting assistance as long as they ain't sending money back home and pay taxes like we are... ....it's the ILLEGAL immigrants here that I don't like receiving assistance from the taxpayers just so liberals can garner their votes.... ...the illegals have it better than a very large percentage of Americans...and it's being done just for the vote... What about "illegals " that have been here a long time , have full time job and pay taxes . What about them? I know a few folks who have been here 20 to 30 years illegally. They have jobs and pay taxes. What would u do with that lot just send um back too? ...don't know how they'd be paying taxes and be illegal at the same time?...seems like the highly respected IRS would be on that like stink on shat to turn them in!...yeah, right
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 28, 2020 13:01:10 GMT -5
What about "illegals " that have been here a long time , have full time job and pay taxes . What about them? I know a few folks who have been here 20 to 30 years illegally. They have jobs and pay taxes. What would u do with that lot just send um back too? ...don't know how they'd be paying taxes and be illegal at the same time?...seems like the highly respected IRS would be on that like stink on shat to turn them in!...yeah, right My buddies father been here illegally a very long time. Like many he got a fake ssn n fake credentials. He pays taxes on his check. No idea about what or if he does anything tax time. The old time illegals work on fake papers... it's very common.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jan 28, 2020 13:17:41 GMT -5
ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL.
Go home, come into the USA by a legal method, go through the system and become a CITIZEN.
Otherwise--ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL---go back to where they came from.
LEGAL is LEGAL--it is the LAW!!!
rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Jan 28, 2020 19:17:09 GMT -5
ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL. Go home, come into the USA by a legal method, go through the system and become a CITIZEN. Otherwise--ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL---go back to where they came from. LEGAL is LEGAL--it is the LAW!!! rr ...perhaps Streets, being an outstanding American citizen, will turn in the illegals he knows!....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 28, 2020 20:32:08 GMT -5
ILLEGAL means ILLEGAL. Go home, come into the USA by a legal method, go through the system and become a CITIZEN. Otherwise--ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL---go back to where they came from. LEGAL is LEGAL--it is the LAW!!! rr ...perhaps Streets, being an outstanding American citizen, will turn in the illegals he knows!.... yeah turn in a 69 year old man who has been here since he was in 30s or 40s. Hes worked and paid taxes ......hell 2 of his sons served in the Afgan war. Yep that's the guy to turn in ...... be a real hero there. LOL.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jan 28, 2020 20:46:52 GMT -5
Apply for citizenship--go through the procedure--PAY the price so many others have to pay---$$$thousands to get the permits and achieve true CITIZENSHIP!!
Time to end the "excuses" and treat everyone the same--EQUALITY under the law!!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Jan 29, 2020 10:19:46 GMT -5
My nephew recently married a gal from Bosnia - she's a lawyer (and a Muslim, fwiw). It took over a year of paperwork and lots of money for her to even get a visa to come here and marry. Now that they're married, she has to wait 6 moths before she can get a job, which seems counter intuitive.
I certainly understand how most immigrants would struggle to accomplish what they did, especially those who are uneducated and poor. Much easier to sneak in illegally and take your chances. That said, it SHOULD be difficult to immigrate to the USA. It SHOULD require an uncommon commitment, including naturalization. The rewards are beyond meaningful to improving the standard of living for the immigrant, and more importantly, their future generations.
The processes for immigration need to be improve; but we must not make it too easy, and we should be selective and thorough in who we allow to come aboard.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jan 29, 2020 13:12:48 GMT -5
I have a very good friend who married a lady from Brazil. She got a green card(worked for a Brazilian airline when they got married), and it took several years and about $4,000 in lawyer fees to achieve citizenship.
Do it the right way--or stay the HELL out!!
Sob stories be damned. LEGAL is LEGAL.
illegal is illegal.
rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Jan 29, 2020 13:25:22 GMT -5
...perhaps Streets, being an outstanding American citizen, will turn in the illegals he knows!.... yeah turn in a 69 year old man who has been here since he was in 30s or 40s. Hes worked and paid taxes ......hell 2 of his sons served in the Afgan war. Yep that's the guy to turn in ...... be a real hero there. LOL. ...bet you 10 to 1 he votes liberal!...
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jan 29, 2020 15:09:18 GMT -5
I might be ok with giving someone who has been living here illegally a path to citizenship (and they must become citizens) if the path was a more difficult, the people had paid all taxes, had a good job, along with good sponsors, they don't start the process and show progress in three months, one warning and then deport cause its obvious they don't want to become citizens just benefit from our society
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jan 29, 2020 17:36:14 GMT -5
yeah turn in a 69 year old man who has been here since he was in 30s or 40s. Hes worked and paid taxes ......hell 2 of his sons served in the Afgan war. Yep that's the guy to turn in ...... be a real hero there. LOL. ...bet you 10 to 1 he votes liberal!... No Idea. I know hes been here for like 30 years and I think most or all the kids are citizens and all of the males served - 2 in the afgan war. My point is all illegals are not the same. If you have been here for a long time and are an upstanding member of your community you should not be made to leave. Preventing future illegals crossing or those with any sort of violent crime record then absolutley they should get booted. But booting someone like him would just be stupid.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jan 29, 2020 18:14:33 GMT -5
How can he VOTE--he has a SSN--illegal!!
OUT--come back and be LEGAL!!
How long has he voted?
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