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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jun 10, 2020 12:24:07 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Jun 10, 2020 15:01:58 GMT -5
Karma is a fickle mistress.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Jun 10, 2020 17:54:21 GMT -5
...once the Floyd burial is over along with the protests....the next thing will be the SPIKE in coron virus cause we started back too soon....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 10, 2020 17:57:39 GMT -5
...once the Floyd burial is over along with the protests....the next thing will be the SPIKE in coron virus cause we started back too soon.... Already saying too soon stay at home |
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 1, 2005 0:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by mountainmutt on Jun 11, 2020 0:56:22 GMT -5
If the current US death rate of approximately 30k per month continues this virus will kill close to 350 K in the US this year.
I don't know about thinning the herd in the protester crowd but it sure as hell is g ok is going to thin the herd in the retirement age crowd.
I wonder how many billions the virus will save the Social Security System?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 11, 2020 8:11:54 GMT -5
Oddly it seems to me that the search for a thereputic other then the ebola med (Rensaler?spl) or HC has pretty much ceased. Very odd really when the ebola med has many bad side effects, HC supposedly does but the data say different. All about the money.
I'm a dumbass inginr but seems to me that they keep talking the danger is the inflammation caused by covid interacting that more attention would be paid to that or effectively reducing it. I personally do not think there will be a vaccine, whatever comes out will be similar to a flu shot.
Someone either Riley or Fiddlin' I think said that they thought that the next wave of crap would be back to Covid and opening back up. Yep that's exactly whats happening and the frikkin' market already reacts by being down about 600 in the futures this morning.
Folks we are being used and abused by a handful of people. Given the lack of progress really in effective treatments and the financial condition of 30 or so million people its evident that unless we overcome the simple fear of going to work and acting directly with people and pull the corn from our butts and reinsert into some of the politicians there are folks around that want to move us rapidly into Venezuela. This whole thing will simply expand the haves and have nots, its already doing it. Folks that are not doing well but want to work are prohibited from it, folks that are working are very soon going to be footing massive taxation and in effect will be no better off then those not working. The whole redistribution thing primarily taken care of by something we can't see and the fear it produces.
Dow futures now down 900...what has changed since yesterday or even the last week. NADA...market being manipulated.
Get hold of your reps folks demand that the anarchy be stopped dead, Seattle aint a protest its annexation and hostile occupation of part of the country however small.
Stop the damn fed hearing on what to do about policing, that's a local matter, if the folks in those cities don't want cops...so be it. They will have to live with the consequences of anarchy, mob rule, and unmitigated felony's.
And for POTUS, right or wrong act, do something and tweeting isn't going to cut it. If you lose the election so be it but be a frikking leader, stop the appeasement, didn't work in the middle east for Obama, didn't work in WWII with Chamberlin, ain't working with Korea, not anywhere near working for China.
Time for all folks to be proactive against the occupations and violence time to have PEACEFUL marches against the BS, and don't allow violence in the name of it. Black lives do matter but this whole thing is not about them its about power and control. Its not about symbolically changing street names or removing statues, its about liberty, the right to choose, the right to decide where your kids can go to school, the ability to own property without the fear of annexation of that property because someone else wants it, the right to come and go as you please without fear of interrogation, detainment and seizure. The way its being corrupted is obscene and I pray that the great mass of the American public see it. Yes black lives matter and they matter because they are free American citizens they don't deserve and definitely don't need to be used in this manner they deserve far more and its going to take the American people to get it done. Politicians are too weak and too tied to money and the trappings of power to do it. Oddly it may take a convention of states to do it. A place where all citizens can actively participate and provide constitutional means to help everyone. It hasn't my knowledge been done before, it won't be some weak badly written legislation it will have the true will of the people and be real revolution not BS thugs, anarchists, and corrupt politicians. Whats going on now IMO is just the type of thing that can drive a COS as people don't trust Washington, they see the anarchy, it provides a far more direct way to affect the course of this country...peacefully and constitutionally
Oh and folks above all follow the science..its been so damn accurate.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jun 11, 2020 8:47:44 GMT -5
HC opined;
And for POTUS, right or wrong act, do something and tweeting isn't going to cut it. If you lose the election so be it but be a frikking leader, stop the appeasement, didn't work in the middle east for Obama, didn't work in WWII with Chamberlin, ain't working with Korea, not anywhere near working for China.
Exactly wHO is TRUMP appeasing?
My goodness, the man has been held hostage for 4 years with 1 lie after another, with libs, rhinos, media and hand wringers coalesced into a MOB of TRUTH deniers!!
Imagine if TRUMP got just a little support on real issues; the wall, real immigration policy, support of tariffs and demanding all countries pay their fair share. How about support for good police, and end of UNIONS for cops and federal employees?
Appeasement you say--and half the libs in congress BOW down over a thug that was murdered--but not even a mention of a decent hard working ex police chief who was MURDERED!
When one takes a knee in front of another--that is admitting submission.
Those are the appeasers--not TRUMP!
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Post by fiddlingone on Jun 11, 2020 9:03:50 GMT -5
Oddly it seems to me that the search for a thereputic other then the ebola med (Rensaler?spl) or HC has pretty much ceased. Very odd really when the ebola med has many bad side effects, HC supposedly does but the data say different. All about the money. I'm a dumbass inginr but seems to me that they keep talking the danger is the inflammation caused by covid interacting that more attention would be paid to that or effectively reducing it. I personally do not think there will be a vaccine, whatever comes out will be similar to a flu shot. Someone either Riley or Fiddlin' I think said that they thought that the next wave of crap would be back to Covid and opening back up. Yep that's exactly whats happening and the frikkin' market already reacts by being down about 600 in the futures this morning. Folks we are being used and abused by a handful of people. Given the lack of progress really in effective treatments and the financial condition of 30 or so million people its evident that unless we overcome the simple fear of going to work and acting directly with people and pull the corn from our butts and reinsert into some of the politicians there are folks around that want to move us rapidly into Venezuela. This whole thing will simply expand the haves and have nots, its already doing it. Folks that are not doing well but want to work are prohibited from it, folks that are working are very soon going to be footing massive taxation and in effect will be no better off then those not working. The whole redistribution thing primarily taken care of by something we can't see and the fear it produces. Dow futures now down 900...what has changed since yesterday or even the last week. NADA...market being manipulated. Get hold of your reps folks demand that the anarchy be stopped dead, Seattle aint a protest its annexation and hostile occupation of part of the country however small. Stop the damn fed hearing on what to do about policing, that's a local matter, if the folks in those cities don't want cops...so be it. They will have to live with the consequences of anarchy, mob rule, and unmitigated felony's. And for POTUS, right or wrong act, do something and tweeting isn't going to cut it. If you lose the election so be it but be a frikking leader, stop the appeasement, didn't work in the middle east for Obama, didn't work in WWII with Chamberlin, ain't working with Korea, not anywhere near working for China. Time for all folks to be proactive against the occupations and violence time to have PEACEFUL marches against the BS, and don't allow violence in the name of it. Black lives do matter but this whole thing is not about them its about power and control. Its not about symbolically changing street names or removing statues, its about liberty, the right to choose, the right to decide where your kids can go to school, the ability to own property without the fear of annexation of that property because someone else wants it, the right to come and go as you please without fear of interrogation, detainment and seizure. The way its being corrupted is obscene and I pray that the great mass of the American public see it. Yes black lives matter and they matter because they are free American citizens they don't deserve and definitely don't need to be used in this manner they deserve far more and its going to take the American people to get it done. Politicians are too weak and too tied to money and the trappings of power to do it. Oddly it may take a convention of states to do it. A place where all citizens can actively participate and provide constitutional means to help everyone. It hasn't my knowledge been done before, it won't be some weak badly written legislation it will have the true will of the people and be real revolution not BS thugs, anarchists, and corrupt politicians. Whats going on now IMO is just the type of thing that can drive a COS as people don't trust Washington, they see the anarchy, it provides a far more direct way to affect the course of this country...peacefully and constitutionally Oh and folks above all follow the science..its been so damn accurate. It was probably Riley, but I do agree it's likely. You are overall much more optimistic than I am. Hoodlums taking over property and gov just letting them have it can not stand. I'm anxious and somewhat dubious about how this will turn out. A stand has to be made somewhere at some time and I think this needs to be the time and where. |
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 11, 2020 9:42:05 GMT -5
I will vote for Trump as far as I can tell but he is at this moment appeasing he isn't perfect on all these issues, he tries and more often then not makes the right decision but he looses the narrative when he tweets his emotions, I realize he thinks out loud and evaluates in private but his detractors use that process as cannon fodder and for all of their hippocracy they are good word and narrativesmiths. like it or not he is going to have to take action and step up quickly as this is getting out of control, folks are dying and not from Covid, people are losing rights right before our eyes and are in danger of not getting them back as a result of these thugs. Again if it costs the Presidency so be it. Black people are being murdered and not by police yet no one does a damn thing, it is never mentioned. BTW I don't see any welfare or mental health workers discussing the issues with the thugs as has been a suggestion in the defunding nonsense, hell they'd get accosted or shot and they know it without police aid, police have been neutered. Antifa group in Seattle is demanding that victimized black people be given a black only hospital attended only by black doctors...that's one of the damn demands, that is segregation, that is an attempt to separate the country, that is a federal civil rights issue that can be used to stop this insanity.
The President needs to not tweet, he needs to go on National TV and radio and state specifically what he is going to do and instantly do it. He needs to act directly with the police unions and demand that the bad apples be cut loose no ifs ands or butts, he needs to demand more training for the officers and the money to do it, officers that are cut loose need to have their work records follow them. Cops by and large are great people, but like everywhere else there are sociopaths, murderers, thieves in the ranks, (following the science of course) statistically I'd say pretty much the same as the general population. Hiring practices need to be far more stringent and for that matter how chiefs are selected needs to be reviewed and not political hires, paper resume's aren't good enough, slick talk and presentation are not good enough. The police themselves need to be involved in the selection. Trump can and should be a leader and flat out propose this before the American public and concurrently send to congress word for word. That is the change folks are supposedly asking for but its been used as an excuse for the chaos we see (not the peaceful big protests) he needs to retake the narrative by the proverbial (and I suppose sexist) nads. As I said be a damn leader and President. We hired him for the change before the virus he was delivering, since mid-march not so much.
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Post by Riley on Jun 11, 2020 12:13:41 GMT -5
..yap, the next big hand wringing thang tryin' to have mail in votes for prez will be that corona is spiking because everyone came out of their jail cells tooo soon!......mail in votes, that election won't be tallied until well into next year.....liberal scum last straw is corona spiking, and, no debates between Trump and biden because they know Trump skin biden arse……
..never, ever underestimate what a liberal will or will not do to promote their liberal scourage agenda....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jun 11, 2020 13:45:17 GMT -5
So--now we are to believe TRUMP MUSt take charge in liberal cities and states, usurp the elected leaders, and that will make him stronger and demonstrate being a "take control" president.
Yeah--right!!
Each state and city chose their scum lib leaders. Here is what the VOTERS in those bastions of stupidity support;
*Sanctuary cities
*total shut down for china flu for another month or 2
*NO cops--see seattle and the response from mayor and governor
*open borders--illegals welcome
*murder rates gone berserk(black on black), chicago, st louis, etc
*squatters rights--live in the park, on the street, all ignored
*increased minimum wage--when jobs are being cut, businesses looted
*al sharpton and his ilk acknowledged as "leaders"
Yeah--TRUMP should become take charge of bastions of scum lib idiocy!!
WHY?
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Post by fiddlingone on Jun 11, 2020 14:19:36 GMT -5
So--now we are to believe TRUMP MUSt take charge in liberal cities and states, usurp the elected leaders, and that will make him stronger and demonstrate being a "take control" president. Yeah--right!! Each state and city chose their scum lib leaders. Here is what the VOTERS in those bastions of stupidity support; *Sanctuary cities *total shut down for china flu for another month or 2 *NO cops--see seattle and the response from mayor and governor *open borders--illegals welcome *murder rates gone berserk(black on black), chicago, st louis, etc *squatters rights--live in the park, on the street, all ignored *increased minimum wage--when jobs are being cut, businesses looted *al sharpton and his ilk acknowledged as "leaders" Yeah--TRUMP should become take charge of bastions of scum lib idiocy!! WHY? rr I guess the libs could have him putting out brush fires everywhere if he does intervene, but they are going to try to use it against him if he doesn't figure something out. No easy options. |
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 11, 2020 14:37:03 GMT -5
Dunno if true or not but I heard that Bill Barr sent a letter to Washinton Gov and Seattle mayor who btw were in a fetal position sucking their thumbs stating that justice had identified Antifa, and several other fringe group operatives in the annexing and that the Gov and Mayor should take care of the situation or in 96 hours he would. If that is true and as I said I don't know if it is we may see something happening next Friday if things remain as they are. Scary times all not so much from from those dumbasses and scum but from the obvious ineffectiveness of elected officials and a strangely paralyzed public.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jun 11, 2020 16:06:29 GMT -5
DEEP state led by globalists, using obamaites and clintonites--funded by soros and clinton foundation.
The main puppet is obama--soros is his puppeteer.
scum libs, scum rinos, scum globalists all seek the demise of TRUMP. HE alone has identified their evil ways, pediphiles, returned aid, undercurrent of unrest fomented by evil, selling off of US businesses and excessive taxation, disgusting of sending our wealth to evil around the globe, bending down to china--etc
TRUMP is their enemy--the enemy of EVIL.
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Post by mountainmutt on Jun 11, 2020 23:33:33 GMT -5
I don’t believe any of the political polls that the major networks are projecting.
The polls are conducted in the major urban areas which are nearly all Democratic hubs.
The truth is the election will be won or lost in
Florida, Wisconsin, Colorado and Arizona.
The remaining states are pretty much all already red, blue or strong leans.
These four states are toss ups and will likely be determined on voter turn out. The older Republican voting sector will vote, the question is whether the Obama voters will turn out in mass.
IMO Trump takes Florida and Arizona which will propel him to victory.
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