Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Jun 23, 2020 9:43:22 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 23, 2020 10:42:47 GMT -5
It is disgusting thats an unwanted and dispicable thing. Need to find the people who did it and put em away for a long time. I dont follow nascar but he is a pretty well thought of driver is he not? We dont need the scum that did that anywhere around
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jun 23, 2020 13:33:40 GMT -5
More FRAUD and FAKE claims to create a false discourse and generate unjustified feely good and empathy. Pictures prove the fraud. Such "nooses/loops" are what any person makes at the end of a pull down rope to provide easy grip and lack of slipping. Another LIE to promote the whine and pout and distortion while ignoring 104 shot and 24 murdered in chicago in 1 weekend. Obviously--black lives murdered by other black lives DON"T matter to black lives!! In chicago could they be looking for their "daddy" and are fighting over which daddy belongs to who? www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/104-people-shot-14-dead-over-weekend-in-chicago/ar-BB15PRPKrr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 23, 2020 14:17:58 GMT -5
More FRAUD and FAKE claims to create a false discourse and generate unjustified feely good and empathy. Pictures prove the fraud. Such "nooses/loops" are what any person makes at the end of a pull down rope to provide easy grip and lack of slipping. Another LIE to promote the whine and pout and distortion while ignoring 104 shot and 24 murdered in chicago in 1 weekend. Obviously--black lives murdered by other black lives DON"T matter to black lives!! In chicago could they be looking for their "daddy" and are fighting over which daddy belongs to who? www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/104-people-shot-14-dead-over-weekend-in-chicago/ar-BB15PRPKrr RR it was a despicable and unacceptable thing to do period please don't try to deflect a really heinous act, bad things in Chicago too of course and unacceptable but those items in and of themselves are unrelated news/media issue aside.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Jun 23, 2020 14:21:35 GMT -5
..no one tryin' to deflect anything here....i would like to see the pic of the noose...i'm sure there are other pics of the noose besides the one shown in the link above....just doesn't add up...
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 23, 2020 14:24:05 GMT -5
..no one tryin' to deflect anything here....i would like to see the pic of the noose...i'm sure there are other pics of the noose besides the one shown in the link above....just doesn't add up... The damn picture isn't important or whether it looked or was real or not it the symbolism, it is heinous and not right and that type of crap is why there is no conversation about the real issues going on it inflames the idiots on both sides
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 21, 2019 12:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiddlingone on Jun 23, 2020 14:39:32 GMT -5
..no one tryin' to deflect anything here....i would like to see the pic of the noose...i'm sure there are other pics of the noose besides the one shown in the link above....just doesn't add up... The damn picture isn't important or whether it looked or was real or not it the symbolism, it is heinous and not right and that type of crap is why there is no conversation about the real issues going on it inflames the idiots on both sides I have a heavy roll up door on my loading dock. You have to manually lift it up and pull it down. No chain or motor on it. I'm to cheap to buy rope when I have many thousands of yards of shade trim I will never use, so I use it instead of rope. I have a large loop on the end of it to make it easier to grip and pull down. It's not a noose, but I guess someone looking for a problem might see it that way. Like Riley, I'd like to see a good picture myself.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jun 23, 2020 14:41:10 GMT -5
Here is a video of the Talladega garage area over the last 4 years--NOOSES everywhere!! Another total fraud used to let a wittle whimperboy play victim.
screw whimperboy and nascar!!
rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jun 23, 2020 18:01:58 GMT -5
More FRAUD and FAKE claims to create a false discourse and generate unjustified feely good and empathy. Pictures prove the fraud. Such "nooses/loops" are what any person makes at the end of a pull down rope to provide easy grip and lack of slipping. Another LIE to promote the whine and pout and distortion while ignoring 104 shot and 24 murdered in chicago in 1 weekend. Obviously--black lives murdered by other black lives DON"T matter to black lives!! In chicago could they be looking for their "daddy" and are fighting over which daddy belongs to who? www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/104-people-shot-14-dead-over-weekend-in-chicago/ar-BB15PRPKrr RR it was a despicable and unacceptable thing to do period please don't try to deflect a really heinous act, bad things in Chicago too of course and unacceptable but those items in and of themselves are unrelated news/media issue aside. THEY ARE related HC. Acceptance of racism fraud, and acceptance of black on black MURDER feed off each other. Killing in the city is ignored--and blacks see that ONLY when a white kills a black is there any echo of condemnation. Same with black destruction of anything white, ignored--but blacks see a mere FRAUD CLAIM is all it takes to generate "discussion", hand wringing, sympathy and CHANGE--all based on FRAUD. Inner city killing--ignored, black on white crime--ignored---so CREATE the racism and generate media denouncement of all things white. Smollett--Fergusen shooting, cambridge prof, and now NASCAR!! All FRAUDS--all accepted and used to attack whites. Yet--nary a peep about 104 shootings and 24 murders by blacks in chicago. Deflection and FRAUD!! tactics of the left lowlifes. seattle anarchy--a block party--now a killing. bubba whined--but it is claimed HE never saw the noose. Right--there never was a noose!! Chicago--inner city destruction and murder--nary a peep. They ARE related--one takes the heat off the inner city turmoil, riots , looting and destruction--and provides a "reason" for such criminal activities. rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 23, 2020 18:19:55 GMT -5
Rationlize however you will the act is wrong and hineous
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Jun 23, 2020 18:22:11 GMT -5
..no one tryin' to deflect anything here....i would like to see the pic of the noose...i'm sure there are other pics of the noose besides the one shown in the link above....just doesn't add up... The damn picture isn't important or whether it looked or was real or not it the symbolism, it is heinous and not right and that type of crap is why there is no conversation about the real issues going on it inflames the idiots on both sides ...yes, the "damn" picture IS important.....without it, it's just a sham.....we have NOT seen any pics of the time it was up to date discovered......liberals like conservatives that have doubts and take up their causes....liberals like it when conservatives drink THEIR koolaid......all i'm saying is i want to see an UP TO DATE PHOTO of when it was discovered, AND by WHO?....that's all...
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 23, 2020 19:47:42 GMT -5
The damn picture isn't important or whether it looked or was real or not it the symbolism, it is heinous and not right and that type of crap is why there is no conversation about the real issues going on it inflames the idiots on both sides ...yes, the "damn" picture IS important.....without it, it's just a sham.....we have NOT seen any pics of the time it was up to date discovered......liberals like conservatives that have doubts and take up their causes....liberals like it when conservatives drink THEIR koolaid......all i'm saying is i want to see an UP TO DATE PHOTO of when it was discovered, AND by WHO?....that's all... At the end of the day though if the picture is of a small piece of rope Shaped like a noose its the image and meaning. It is ... i have no more words.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jun 23, 2020 20:29:30 GMT -5
...yes, the "damn" picture IS important.....without it, it's just a sham.....we have NOT seen any pics of the time it was up to date discovered......liberals like conservatives that have doubts and take up their causes....liberals like it when conservatives drink THEIR koolaid......all i'm saying is i want to see an UP TO DATE PHOTO of when it was discovered, AND by WHO?....that's all... At the end of the day though if the picture is of a small piece of rope Shaped like a noose its the image and meaning. It is ... i have no more words. that IS exactly what the whine is about. the FBI has now said the "noose" was in that garage since last year. ALL the garages--or almost ALL have a NOOSE at the door to pull it down. Watch the video--see the truth--and at least admit the entire thing is a FRAUD!! rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Jun 23, 2020 20:46:51 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jun 24, 2020 10:47:51 GMT -5
I will admit I jumped the gun on the pull down. I was very wrong and assumed the worst a bad choice. This looks to be once again a driven narrative, others believed the worst too, that's easy to do now even for Bubba Wilson. However I stand by the general statement of the symbolism in regards to the crudity of a noose. The pull down was a pull down not question. What happened here is precisely why the divide is deepening, we cannnot trust any of the news sources to deliver unfiltered, non patrician, no message information. They place intent were there was none, and we bit ( I include myself in that).
Its stuff like this that keeps us from having a true conversation about inequities precieved or not. For example and this applies to all minorities but I'll use the black American perspective as an example, Have any of our leader actually asked everyday non political no agenda black americans how they really feel about monument symbols around the country, and how would they resolve the issue non-violently I doubt leaders have. Have they really asked the everyday white American how we honestly feel about these issues and how we would resolve them. Of course not. I was raised in the deep south by my Grandparents in Mississippi and Louisiana, I lived my young and young adult life through the turmoil, I saw the prejudice and injustice first hand, I saw and learned what was right or not right there are problems many still but I really do think we as "regular" citizens of all shades have far more in common with each other then our so called "leaders" want us to have. Root issues such as a descent education, safety on the streets for our children and families, freedom from oppression, government or otherwise.
The way things are now we will never have those needed conversations and hence wont reach that point because the radicals on both sides don't want us there.
Senator Scotts bill is another good example, its simple to the point and addresses in a positive way with little hidden agenda and baggage, the training, tracking of record, base use of force, and evaluation of candidates that should be adopted by all police a general policy that would leave details to local authorities based on the local need. Dems say its not enough we need more, more rules to confuse those trying very hard to do the work of protection and more our non-elected govt. sucks to create rules that do nothing but make the situation worse or untenable. That in a nutshell is the problem, 99% of all Americans are not the problem, liberal or conservative. the 99% that simply live their lives, love their families, and communities have got to step up and beat this down. It needs to start locally and extend all the way to Congress and the President. The Government is for us not the other way around everyone needs to understand that and take some personal responsibility to make it that way. If that leans to liberal, conservative, or libertarian that's ok its the extremists that are the problem and the fear they spread, the hate the initiate and spread, and the lack of true public discourse they shout down. Until we can do that and make it clear to politicians that the way they are fostering is unacceptable, this hate and lying and usurping of the Declaration and Constitution will continue. We have the means to make it better for all, I'm not sure that Joe, Jane, Mohammed, Devesh, Juan, Shanika, and on and on American have the will to force it. Until we do these events will continue to happen and simple mistakes like those concerning the garage pull down will inflame us all for no reason
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