Dont Be A Sheep: Covid 911

[Katman]

[houstoncat]

Hey I've an interesting hypothetical, for those of you that saw that Minnesota state senator get mugged by the jumbo sized protestor and her shrieking cohart for filming the protest, what would you have done if you were the Senator? Its a conundrum, you ain't supposed to hit women but those two were set on doing harm to someone and somone pretty much in lockstep with their protest but one might view that as a threat and coldcock the woman, now that's not a good optic that's for sure and very much against how I was brought up and How I live my life but geeeez some form of self preservation would normally assert itself. Wimp karaoke may of Minnesoter may have done the safe thing to take the total embarrassment of being shouted down and not standing up for the right thing, btw I understand that he had to get a rectal exam to see if that corn cob up his butt he got did any damage.

Honestly a serious question about what might one do if it happened. These are real strange times 14 or 15 more killed in Chicago this weekend including babies. Nothing done by the City or Illinois honestly I think its time for the president to step in whether it cost's him an election or not. Chicago Mayor and many of the councilman are doing nothing and the governor is doing less, a whole group of people live in fear from the terror of the gangs and lets face it Dems really show what they think of the Black Community and Chicago is the beneficiary or victims of that callousness and utter disregard. Most sad. As I said I think the President needs to step up on this. Possible federal lawsuits for civil rights concerning the Mayor etc.

[Katman]

I would think your takeaway from this video would be much larger scope than that.

Knowing all in the video is going on, [being aware] is the best way to mentally chart your future.

There are "WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF'S" in abundance. Focusing on one is like picking up a pile of sand with tweezers.

[fiddlingone]

Jun 29, 2020 13:29:52 GMT -5 houstoncat said:

Hey I've an interesting hypothetical, for those of you that saw that Minnesota state senator get mugged by the jumbo sized protestor and her shrieking cohart for filming the protest, what would you have done if you were the Senator? Its a conundrum, you ain't supposed to hit women but those two were set on doing harm to someone and somone pretty much in lockstep with their protest but one might view that as a threat and coldcock the woman, now that's not a good optic that's for sure and very much against how I was brought up and How I live my life but geeeez some form of self preservation would normally assert itself. Wimp karaoke may of Minnesoter may have done the safe thing to take the total embarrassment of being shouted down and not standing up for the right thing, btw I understand that he had to get a rectal exam to see if that corn cob up his butt he got did any damage.

Honestly a serious question about what might one do if it happened. These are real strange times 14 or 15 more killed in Chicago this weekend including babies. Nothing done by the City or Illinois honestly I think its time for the president to step in whether it cost's him an election or not. Chicago Mayor and many of the councilman are doing nothing and the governor is doing less, a whole group of people live in fear from the terror of the gangs and lets face it Dems really show what they think of the Black Community and Chicago is the beneficiary or victims of that callousness and utter disregard. Most sad. As I said I think the President needs to step up on this. Possible federal lawsuits for civil rights concerning the Mayor etc.

What would I have done? First I was trained not to go in to a situation unprepared. He was unprepared. I was also trained to evaluate the situation and decide if an action was worth it. Some battles are not worth the cost. If this battle was worth it to him, he should've been prepared. Since the battle would not have been worth it to me, I would not have been there. But if I found myself there, I would have done whatever the situation called for to defend myself.

What should Trump do? I'm not sure. A lot of the things going on should help him as people should be able to see the evil. With to much action, they could have him putting out brush fires everywhere and even possibly set him up for disaster in some situations. OTHOH he needs to show strength. I'm sure he and his people are looking at it.  What is going to come out before the elections from the Barr investigations? This could possibly play into the decision of what or how much he should do. I don't have the info to make a confident statement on action other than he doesn't need to come off as weak.

[houstoncat]

Jun 29, 2020 13:38:29 GMT -5 Katman said:

I would think your takeaway from this video would be much larger scope than that.

Knowing all in the video is going on, [being aware] is the best way to mentally chart your future.

There are "WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF'S" in abundance. Focusing on one is like picking up a pile of sand with tweezers.

Damn katman i was asking a hypothetical on that particular situation not a global response. Training other then what one is normally taught by parents and civil society is all a civilian has to fall back on he was rather violently attacked well outside of the protestor zone. Other then doing what legions of folks do and video the attack was unprovoked. Im just curious on what one might do. A physical attack by a woman albeit a formidable one aint a normal thing in my world . Do ones mores and values hold And you take the abuse to a point or does the defense mechanism override teaching and are you willing to take the for sure kick back because despite the circumstance she is a woman. More and a somewhat amusing side what if an lBGT male self iding as female I think that one scenario only touches the surface of what our police have to compute And are somewhat trained for. Guys the instinct to defend ones self Despite all the training you might have is strong.

I liked fiddlin’s response.

Btw how many of you thin a social justice hr type will go to a domestic spat at 3 in the morning without a cop there you send the cop and you defeat the purpose of having a hr type deescalating that. Thoughts

[ruppsrunt]

Why MUST TRUMP resolve internal city issues created by those elected to run the city for those masses who voted for the idiots?

Exactly how is TRUMP responsible? If you say yes--then which cities should tRUMP take over?

chicago--miami--atlanta--los angeles--san francisco--portland--seattle--houston--baltimore--wash DC--New York city--louisville--

How many more?

expecting TRUMP to settle the inner city issues created over 55 years of mis-management is totally loco.

And--if TRUMP is suppose to resolve all the issues--exactly HOW?

Easy to suggest TRUMP get involved--but no suggestion HOW to do it!!

total BS, and everyone knows it. when they kill each other and reach a limit--those left alive will elect others than lib lowlifes.

rr

[houstoncat]

Purely political reasons his base and many independent want positive action and that does not include citizens being the appetizer while dem cities eat themselves

He doesnt have to solve but he needs to take an a tive role in settiing positive policy to improve the issues and embolden that quiet grop of folks to speak up.

How does he do it? Education reform first and making sure the disadvantage can and do embrace example fed money in schools and state require police in schools to protect No cops no dough.

Your approach RR is let it happen dont push back that aint got those places very far in the last 50 years.

He will not get elected again if he doesnt stepUp his game . Hes a doer he has reasonable political instinct use that. And despite what some may think he is concerned with the polls he has to address it. Duram is old news public doesnt give a rats ass now. It is the me generation you know

[ruppsrunt]

Jun 29, 2020 15:39:35 GMT -5 houstoncat said:

Purely political reasons his base and many independent want positive action and that does not include citizens being the appetizer while dem cities eat themselves

He doesnt have to solve but he needs to take an a tive role in settiing positive policy to improve the issues and embolden that quiet grop of folks to speak up.

How does he do it? Education reform first and making sure the disadvantage can and do embrace example fed money in schools and state require police in schools to protect No cops no dough.

Your approach RR is let it happen dont push back that aint got those places very far in the last 50 years.

He will not get elected again if he doesnt stepUp his game . Hes a doer he has reasonable political instinct use that. And despite what some may think he is concerned with the polls he has to address it. Duram is old news public doesnt give a rats ass now. It is the me generation you know

Total wishy washy BS!!!

Education reform--what reform? School choice--no chance at fed level. Private schools? Who funds it? YOU?

Positive policy? Where have YOU been for over 3 years? releasing prisoners--providing funding for inner city zones, more jobs, wage increases, bringing industry back to the USA, and thwarted at every step by lib lowlifes, rhinos, deep staters and media!!

FED $$$ in schools--my goodness, the FEDS should have ZERO to do with schools--67% of dept of education goes to those who run it--and maybe 30% to the schools!! VOUCHERS--stopped by the lowlife libs--choice, stopped by libs!!

You have lots of "generalities"--but nothing specific!! That is what libs do all day long--":in general we need to solve---"--but nothing but more $$$ to solve the issue and no real concrete solution!!

I gave a solution--when enough DIE, those remaining will step up(march and march and march) and say enough is enough!! Right now--blamed whitey, blame cops, blame FEDS---and keep voting dumb dem and get the same or worse results.

TRUMP must let um have it their way--until THEY say enough with their vOTES!!

If the inner cities vote BIDEN--they agree with the present situation and accept the results they are getting.

Again--name SPECIFICS---not feely good "wannas" that have no concrete support.

$$$$ ain't the answer---since LBJ in 1965/66--55 years--$22trillion spent on welfare of one kind or another--and RESULTS are a $22trillion fed debt---and more and more of the same!! Interesting huh? welfare for 55 years equals the fed national debt!!

Maybe if we just try to understand um, and reach out with more $$$, and bend over, kneel and polish their shoes?

rr

[Riley]

...i know who's voting for biden....

[Katman]

Who? Xi Xingping?

[houstoncat]

Jun 29, 2020 18:01:02 GMT -5 ruppsrunt said:

Jun 29, 2020 15:39:35 GMT -5 houstoncat said:

Purely political reasons his base and many independent want positive action and that does not include citizens being the appetizer while dem cities eat themselves

He doesnt have to solve but he needs to take an a tive role in settiing positive policy to improve the issues and embolden that quiet grop of folks to speak up.

How does he do it? Education reform first and making sure the disadvantage can and do embrace example fed money in schools and state require police in schools to protect No cops no dough.

Your approach RR is let it happen dont push back that aint got those places very far in the last 50 years.

He will not get elected again if he doesnt stepUp his game . Hes a doer he has reasonable political instinct use that. And despite what some may think he is concerned with the polls he has to address it. Duram is old news public doesnt give a rats ass now. It is the me generation you know

Total wishy washy BS!!!

Education reform--what reform? School choice--no chance at fed level. Private schools? Who funds it? YOU?

Positive policy? Where have YOU been for over 3 years? releasing prisoners--providing funding for inner city zones, more jobs, wage increases, bringing industry back to the USA, and thwarted at every step by lib lowlifes, rhinos, deep staters and media!!

FED $$$ in schools--my goodness, the FEDS should have ZERO to do with schools--67% of dept of education goes to those who run it--and maybe 30% to the schools!! VOUCHERS--stopped by the lowlife libs--choice, stopped by libs!!

You have lots of "generalities"--but nothing specific!! That is what libs do all day long--":in general we need to solve---"--but nothing but more $$$ to solve the issue and no real concrete solution!!

I gave a solution--when enough DIE, those remaining will step up(march and march and march) and say enough is enough!! Right now--blamed whitey, blame cops, blame FEDS---and keep voting dumb dem and get the same or worse results.

TRUMP must let um have it their way--until THEY say enough with their vOTES!!

If the inner cities vote BIDEN--they agree with the present situation and accept the results they are getting.

Again--name SPECIFICS---not feely good "wannas" that have no concrete support.

$$$$ ain't the answer---since LBJ in 1965/66--55 years--$22trillion spent on welfare of one kind or another--and RESULTS are a $22trillion fed debt---and more and more of the same!! Interesting huh? welfare for 55 years equals the fed national debt!!

Maybe if we just try to understand um, and reach out with more $$$, and bend over, kneel and polish their shoes?

rr

We are already funding rr whether you know it or believe it or not but the money is being squandered on infrastructure and overhead.

You doing and saying nothing is precisely why we have this situation if a person doesnt get involved which is what is happening with the silent majority they will get stepped and thats what is being seen.

Let people die isnt a solution its an ignore it long enough and it will disappear non solution. You dont need more money you need to use what is allocated better that starts with voting the right folks in which given our generation we have not done a good job of doing we were complacent didnt vote or didnt pay attention enough to care about successive generations because hey things were good for us.

It starts with education and family and yes church. Education is the difference maker in hard world. It pulled a lot of folks on here out of the hollows lessons learned from that can be applied to the inner cities too.

Let them die isnt a solution its an easy way out for people that do not want to deal with the issues that caused the behavior problem is always somone to pick up where the dead left off.

[Streeter]

Good thing Covid is just "the flu" or I might be starting to get concerned again....... but another good thing the warm weather will make covid n after thought.....hmmmmmm.

[ruppsrunt]

covid is the china FLU---cases up--hospitalization down---death rate greatly down.

just as reported earlier--spread the FLU through the young, weaken it, and let warm weather and a weakened FLU just die away.

States--well cities, have many many new cases, no surprise. For more than 2 weeks the marches and lotting and rioting were obvious all over the country. WHY act surprised with more new cases of FLU. But--nary a peep about the death rate, which is decreasing each day.

World death rate is now about what NEW york city and new jersey saw each day--
2 days ago--3467 deaths
yesterday---3415
today ---1988
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

USA; 2 days ago 285---yesterday 346--today 180

NYC was having more than 2,000 each day at one time.

WAKE up, get real--the whine is now CASES. Well, more testing assures more cases detected--but not severity--just cases.

Wring hands--whine and hide---china FLU is still around.

US cases are just cases--many many young who marched and looted--they got it--so what?
Georgia had 2206 cases yesterday--and only 6 deaths!!! So, the whine and pout is about CASES!!! atlanta had marches and looting and fires for 4 weeks--now who could expect MORE cases?

Check the USA numbers at the link--and stop the hand wringing;--fauci the fraud luvs his followers;
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Get back to work--come JULY 1, tomorrow, when the $600/week free checks run out--then the lazy will need to go back to work--or LOOT more.

rr

[Katman]

Jun 30, 2020 10:19:23 GMT -5 Streeter said:

Good thing Covid is just "the flu" or I might be starting to get concerned again....... but another good thing the warm weather will make covid n after thought.....hmmmmmm.

The ignored fact is that the death rate is plummeting.

It's also unhealthy to breathe your own carbon dioxide for extended periods. (For you mask lovers)

On to your above post more directly. WHY would anyone be concerned about something like a flu bug or Coronavirus when its 98% not deadly?

Why will all mention of this flu bug virus end on Trumps election in 17 weeks?

[houstoncat]

Like other things in life, breathing isn't that simple. What we breathe in is far from pure oxygen, but roughly by volume 78 per cent nitrogen, 21 per cent oxygen, 0.965 per cent argon and 0.04 per cent carbon dioxide (plus some helium, water and other gases). The permanent gases in air we exhale are roughly 78 per cent nitrogen, 15 to 18 per cent oxygen (we retain only a small amount), 4 to 5 per cent carbon dioxide and 0.96 per cent argon, the CO2 being of course used by plants during photosynthesis

You breathe it out dude You dont inhale aNd exhale,,mediately it dissipates besides folks move the mask

You should wear one when you go to grocery out of damn courtesy it helps the issue.

Now a real world fact St lukes hospital here has 12 beds set aside as covid only positive air flow the whole shabang ritht now they have six in tose beds since the new increase 3 folks have died all 79 or older all obese and with two other really chronic issues. Most folk here being treated wiith the ebola medicine 3300 per five day of doses therein lies some of the treament hubub money made there. Age groups 55 or older not much affected right now why? We wear masks and do the distance thing. Upturn due to a couple of things 62000 person tight spaced funeral and young folks out i. Bars and restaurants paying no attenton at all to wearing a mask or reasonable social distancing in tight places. They were not smart when guiidelies eased. There is no issue with hospital beds thats made up. Emergency surgery is allowed. A company here is in third tier trial in mexico and 2nd tier here ising stem cell therepy. Very very good results. It is not big pharm either and texas based. We are lucky in texas we have a very good health system.

So wear a mask when you go out to public venues that is unless you are prone to hyperventilation and afraid you will faint