Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Jul 9, 2020 12:55:50 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jul 9, 2020 13:58:42 GMT -5
Pent up demand for regular healthcare has created a huge backlog that is forcing people to finally seek solutions--heart--cancer--lung--physio---all were STOPPED to provide space that was never filled. Now--a glut of need for regular care.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jul 9, 2020 21:38:27 GMT -5
Pent up demand for regular healthcare has created a huge backlog that is forcing people to finally seek solutions--heart--cancer--lung--physio---all were STOPPED to provide space that was never filled. Now--a glut of need for regular care. rr I havnt agreed very much on this with you but your glut statement is very true. The use of hospitals by local states and local govt has been inefficient. Cutting normal services in entirety to deal with covid caused in my mine critical backlogs of “elective” surgeries. Ill bet at least 25% of those services such as heart cancer hip replacements have caused long term issues and maybe early death. Thise wont be evaluated as a cost of covid and again imo a mismanagement of available resources by state and local government. Much of that guideline came from the cdc following the data. Trump will be blamed for it but he didn't develop the guidelines he did what everyone said he should do and followed them and got torched by questionable data and governors and mayors making bad decisions. I can give you an example of houston. The mayor and his minions decided the city Could remove the 60 M ACOE covid hospital that was built. Now they are griping that our hospitals are stressed. Fortunately administrators are able to adjust and compensate for the increased covid load still around 50 % of critical care. Current issues are not caused by decisions to phase open but by people not following simple guidelines. Who did that 20 to 30 group those that think they are invulnerable. Not surprisingly this is the entitled age group that thinks our system sucks. Rates of us deaths are the lowest in the free world and inflated. One other thing deaths are increasing why? Volume of infected. Rate in houston is still at 1%. Next crisis... running out of tests. So lets look back a minute. Washington State despite strict measures increasing again, california ,the same michigan chicago the same nyc and new york stll with good trends death wise is increasing again. Florida under fire but hospitization and death rate very low relative to the volume of testing. Crisis 2 unknown how many people died at home due to not getting elective treatment. This issue is complex what is really happening health wise is unclear because only selective info is put out. And folks it is very political both sides. POTUS takes the hit and is making hard decisions. Congress? Do we still have one? Nada from red or blue. Ill agree with Biden on one thing we need change but it aint POTUS though he is the lightening rod. Its congress we need a complete house cleaning of folks both sides people truly concerned for the countrys welfare good people with no preconceived agendas that will take the bull by the horns and take their Qu fro POTUS and keep promises and address the true issue facing us bad people in government Its up to all of us to find them and elect the . Hard though with the two headed coin we have for govt now
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Jul 10, 2020 6:20:09 GMT -5
Streeter is just doing the Marxists bidding here. My Conclusion: Streeter is a Marxist Heres the deal, Florida is where the Republican Convention is...They want to shut it down if they can because they know they cant beat Trump. Heres an example...DEblasio says no large groups can gather (EXCEPT BLM) EXPOSED!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jul 10, 2020 8:47:01 GMT -5
Streeter is just doing the Marxists bidding here. My Conclusion: Streeter is a Marxist Heres the deal, Florida is where the Republican Convention is...They want to shut it down if they can because they know they cant beat Trump. Heres an example...DEblasio says no large groups can gather (EXCEPT BLM) EXPOSED! Thats just wrong katman he quoting published numbers and sarcastically talking abiut some of the things you have said sbout causes and cures. Thats like calling you a fascist for putting down anyone who disagrees with you, on agenda 21, Qanon (total garbage site). Are you a fascist i I think not just gullible about much of far right fake news as many are of far left fake news. You owe Streeter an apology though truthfully i doubt he cares. BTW katman i see governor has ordered masks in certain areas including grocery stores. Are you going to comply?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jul 10, 2020 8:50:26 GMT -5
Just saw data for Georgia--18% of ICU beds are still empty. My local hospital, in the most populated county in the state, had less than 50% total occupancy during April and May and most of June. At last, "ELECTIVE" surgery and procedures were again allowed about mid June. since then many many people are at last receiving the care they waited for--but many rooms still available. What we see is a deflection from the northeast and michigan and illinois--where pathetic leaders caused huge death tolls and added misery. Point elsewhere and expect RESULTS to not be checked. Look at these death rates per 1,000,000 population--thru yesterday, July 9; lib run states and cities; 1663--new york 1748--new jersey 1200--massachusetts 1220--connecticut 919---rhode island 805--wash dc 628--michigan 578---illinois now some Conservative states; 105--texas 187--florida 276--georgia 104--tennessee 104--oklahoma 112--north dakota---never closed at all www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/Poor leadership created DEATH!!! Blood on the hands of marxist leftist lowlife dems all over the country. rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jul 10, 2020 8:53:56 GMT -5
Streeter is just doing the Marxists bidding here. My Conclusion: Streeter is a Marxist Heres the deal, Florida is where the Republican Convention is...They want to shut it down if they can because they know they cant beat Trump. Heres an example...DEblasio says no large groups can gather (EXCEPT BLM) EXPOSED! Thats just wrong katman he quoting published numbers and sarcastically talking abiut some of the things you have said sbout causes and cures. Thats like calling you a fascist for putting down anyone who disagrees with you, on agenda 21, Qanon (total garbage site). Are you a fascist i I think not just gullible about much of far right fake news as many are of far left fake news. You owe Streeter an apology though truthfully i doubt he cares. BTW katman i see governor has ordered masks in certain areas including grocery stores. Are you going to comply? Katman--kneel and bow and handwring and make um feel all gooey inside!! total horsepucky!! streeter has called many DD members racists, just because HE was put down for idiocy and stupid support and claims. NEVER an apology from streeter, for anything--and YOU never ask streeter to apologize for idiocy!! rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jul 10, 2020 9:41:35 GMT -5
Thats just wrong katman he quoting published numbers and sarcastically talking abiut some of the things you have said sbout causes and cures. Thats like calling you a fascist for putting down anyone who disagrees with you, on agenda 21, Qanon (total garbage site). Are you a fascist i I think not just gullible about much of far right fake news as many are of far left fake news. You owe Streeter an apology though truthfully i doubt he cares. BTW katman i see governor has ordered masks in certain areas including grocery stores. Are you going to comply? Katman--kneel and bow and handwring and make um feel all gooey inside!! total horsepucky!! streeter has called many DD members racists, just because HE was put down for idiocy and stupid support and claims. NEVER an apology from streeter, for anything--and YOU never ask streeter to apologize for idiocy!! rr Thats because i have not been called a marxist by him or you or katman. I do not ask for fealty by bowing nor do i do it. I wear a mask by informed choice. I space by choice. I do not quote conspiracy sites that throw out stuff until it sticks. This pandemic and its consequences has been devastating. Human lives lost and of those almost 50 % by dem governors from covid. Current spread by the young many of whom participated in the funeral protests. Economic loss is not even measurable yet and would be far worse if not for trump economy. So Streeter gigs people on the covid rise in florida and texas. He knows good and well HDroxy works to a significant group of people. But katman bit after the bait and called him a marxist. Comon respond with facts ot name calling it demeans whatever argument you have.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jul 10, 2020 9:44:50 GMT -5
Pent up demand for regular healthcare has created a huge backlog that is forcing people to finally seek solutions--heart--cancer--lung--physio---all were STOPPED to provide space that was never filled. Now--a glut of need for regular care. rr Your response here was the correct one to streeters info. No pigeonholing by calling people somthing they are not
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Jul 10, 2020 10:08:36 GMT -5
Pent up demand for regular healthcare has created a huge backlog that is forcing people to finally seek solutions--heart--cancer--lung--physio---all were STOPPED to provide space that was never filled. Now--a glut of need for regular care. rr Your response here was the correct one to streeters info. No pigeonholing by calling people somthing they are not HC--I do not need any approval for my beliefs, nor require anyone to decide what is or is not correct. And--when it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck--it is very likely a DUCK. That is essentially a PC tactic--to "inform" others what is proper and correct. streeter does not provide "info"--he provides marxist talking points. HE supports a dementia laden person for PRESIDENT. that is pathetic---and it is CORRECT to point out how pathetic such a choice is. Perhaps YOU should inform him how "incorrect" such a choice is. HERE is the PC proper correct solution, if only TRUMP can be nice and sing around the campfire; Trump should be nice, hold hands with enemies, sing songs and roast weenies around the bonfire. Bend over or kneel and ask all the terrorists marching --"What do you want, let me help you"! then he can praise obama and biden and brennan and comey and yates and wiseman and mueller for really doing their best to destroy an elected president. tell um how much he appreciates their diligence and continued effort to destroy flynn and his presidency. then, meet with jesse jackson, al sharpton and louis the low and accommodate their demands. Listen to antifa--hear um out--and kneel beg forgiveness for lack of understanding. then--go to europe and kiss the ass of merkel, hug macron and throw a kiss to trudeau up north. Tell um all how he is sad he stopped paying for all their defense and will now let um go back to normal. then a short jaunt to the mexico border and start "Tear down this wall" activity to show how loving and generous the US can be--open the borders to all--be nice--hold hands-- then slip over to the capital building and express luv for all the dems, pelosi, schumer, nadler, pencil neck and the rhinos--show luv to romney and collins and murkowski--tell um he will name liberal abortion loving people for the supreme court. YEP--TRUMP must become what he promised to replace--a bush, a clinton a obama--and let the world pluck the meat from the carcass as the politicians and generals collect the last ounce of flesh($$$) they can garner from the decaying rotting skeleton. Yeah--TRUMP should be like all the rest--kind and nice and kneeling!! then--others will follow--and luv him--and finish the job the 2 bushes 1 clinton and 1 obama almost completed--the destruction of the USA. My answer to those seeking the bendover, kneeling mode from TRUMP---GO TO HELL---This is EVIL we are fighting, and being nice went by the wayside decades ago!! Screw all the pacifist hand wringers---if the shoe fits, and one wants TRUMP to be "NICE"---then this description fits!! rr
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Jul 10, 2020 10:36:18 GMT -5
There was no intent at a pc response it was simply the correct way to respond to the post just facts. No overt reference to drinking the kool aid etc.
I have few issues with trump i accept his tweeting defense mechanism but i think he steps on it a lot. He writes like he thinks its free flowing in normal world a refreshing trait because love him or hate him you know where you are with him. Its just that trait that make russia and china fear him. The more protest you hear the more its taking hold.
I have not liked a president since Reagan. Trump I like. Im not a hand wringer but i do recognize he has a hill to climb. The public is gullible they see erosion of freedoms and shrug it off ss long as it doesnt affect them. Its a very uneducated public. Not going to get better if kids are not in school.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Jul 10, 2020 11:08:17 GMT -5
Streeter is just doing the Marxists bidding here. My Conclusion: Streeter is a Marxist Heres the deal, Florida is where the Republican Convention is...They want to shut it down if they can because they know they cant beat Trump. Heres an example...DEblasio says no large groups can gather (EXCEPT BLM) EXPOSED! Thats just wrong katman he quoting published numbers and sarcastically talking abiut some of the things you have said sbout causes and cures. Thats like calling you a fascist for putting down anyone who disagrees with you, on agenda 21, Qanon (total garbage site). Are you a fascist i I think not just gullible about much of far right fake news as many are of far left fake news. You owe Streeter an apology though truthfully i doubt he cares. BTW katman i see governor has ordered masks in certain areas including grocery stores. Are you going to comply? It's unconstitutional. It's like I say, I will not be made into a political pawn for the powers that seek to take away our liberty. I owe Streeter nothing, he gets excited every time he thinks the Marxists get a basket in this "game" BTW...It's NOT a game. Deblasio says, no large groups allowed to gather together...EXCEPT BLM. Are you OK with that? Will I comply? Nope. I may strap on a go pro and walk into somewhere without a jock strap on my face to get any reactions to this political theater. If masks REALLY worked, then the only ones that would need to wear them are the Scaredy Cats (Their right) I mean, if they work, they work with someone next to you who doesnt have a jock strap on his face. Liberty or Death guys, this is just simply unacceptable and Unconstitutional. Everyone needs to stand up and be counted. Why should we have to play this game until Nov 4th when we all know its bullshit NOW?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Jul 10, 2020 11:26:07 GMT -5
...when all is said and done and calculated, i don't trust the liberals, liberal hospital higher ups to report the correct numbers, nor the liberal media using their scare tactics agenda...
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 21, 2019 12:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiddlingone on Jul 10, 2020 13:39:03 GMT -5
Thats just wrong katman he quoting published numbers and sarcastically talking abiut some of the things you have said sbout causes and cures. Thats like calling you a fascist for putting down anyone who disagrees with you, on agenda 21, Qanon (total garbage site). Are you a fascist i I think not just gullible about much of far right fake news as many are of far left fake news. You owe Streeter an apology though truthfully i doubt he cares. BTW katman i see governor has ordered masks in certain areas including grocery stores. Are you going to comply? It's unconstitutional. It's like I say, I will not be made into a political pawn for the powers that seek to take away our liberty. I owe Streeter nothing, he gets excited every time he thinks the Marxists get a basket in this "game" BTW...It's NOT a game. Deblasio says, no large groups allowed to gather together...EXCEPT BLM. Are you OK with that? Will I comply? Nope. I may strap on a go pro and walk into somewhere without a jock strap on my face to get any reactions to this political theater. If masks REALLY worked, then the only ones that would need to wear them are the Scaredy Cats (Their right) I mean, if they work, they work with someone next to you who doesnt have a jock strap on his face. Liberty or Death guys, this is just simply unacceptable and Unconstitutional. Everyone needs to stand up and be counted. Why should we have to play this game until Nov 4th when we all know its bullshit NOW? I had to renew my driver's license today. There was a deputy standing in the door way requiring anyone who entered be wearing a mask. I don't like wearing one, but I didn't want to fight over this ant hill or take a chance on getting a "driving without a license", so I wore a mask. What are you going to do when you have to renew?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Jul 10, 2020 16:32:21 GMT -5
It's unconstitutional. It's like I say, I will not be made into a political pawn for the powers that seek to take away our liberty. I owe Streeter nothing, he gets excited every time he thinks the Marxists get a basket in this "game" BTW...It's NOT a game. Deblasio says, no large groups allowed to gather together...EXCEPT BLM. Are you OK with that? Will I comply? Nope. I may strap on a go pro and walk into somewhere without a jock strap on my face to get any reactions to this political theater. If masks REALLY worked, then the only ones that would need to wear them are the Scaredy Cats (Their right) I mean, if they work, they work with someone next to you who doesnt have a jock strap on his face. Liberty or Death guys, this is just simply unacceptable and Unconstitutional. Everyone needs to stand up and be counted. Why should we have to play this game until Nov 4th when we all know its bullshit NOW? I had to renew my driver's license today. There was a deputy standing in the door way requiring anyone who entered be wearing a mask. I don't like wearing one, but I didn't want to fight over this ant hill or take a chance on getting a "driving without a license", so I wore a mask. What are you going to do when you have to renew? I dont have to renue till after Nov 4th. I assume we Kentuckians are going to have to do a recall on this Crat Governor. This is a mostly Conservative state with a Marxcrat at the governors mansion? Seriously? I have a plan for the storage auctions this month if that is what they require to attend. I have a gilly head cover Covers my entire head with camoflague. It should make a point. Either that or get a hazmat suit. One way or the other Kentuckians need to stand up in opposition of this. First things first, gotta get this recall started. Well shit...look at this ballotpedia.org/Recall_campaigns_in_Kentucky
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