Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Dec 8, 2020 8:34:03 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Dec 8, 2020 8:56:52 GMT -5
No way I would take a vaccine for doing what your immune system is supposed to be doing. Gates Foundation wants most of the worlds population DEAD.
DO THE MATH!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Dec 8, 2020 9:24:18 GMT -5
Katman you said a key word supposed on viruses a lot of the population do not have the antibodies or antibody production capability etc to keep the viruses from spreading in the body to the extent it doesn't make you real sick or worse. Now about .05% of the folks in the world are immune to just about anything or get not much more the mildly ill if at all and they don't spread. Individuals may be immune to a specific virus but susceptible to others. All the vaccines do is activate either your antibody system to learn how to fight a virus or create the types of antibody's your body needs to combat a virus. I know that some of the early flu vaccines could make you sick in fact I got very sick twice when I was in my 30's after I took the vaccine, I didn't take for many years, did some reading and the process to make changed and since I've had no issues with the shots nor any hint of flu though those around me might have been sick.
The first two vaccines are something do something with RNA of the virus I think (I've no idea what) typical vaccines are different in process and appear to be slightly less effective. An individuals immune system may not be capable of producing what's needed hence the need for vaccines or therapeutics that can supplement or help that. Not to take the vaccine is certainly your choice and if you feel which you obviously do that you don't need the vaccine or for whatever reason don't feel safe taking it you shouldn't take it that's a considered personnel decision there will be lots of folks like you.
For my part I've been told I have a very robust immune system but I'm still going to take it same as I take flu shots, hepatitis, shingles, pneumonia, tetanus, etc. I am out a lot in an among various working groups and I consider it prudent. Its all good with me one way or another. Chances are pretty good that the herd immunity thing will start in mass If it hasn't already for this virus pretty quick after many take the vaccine. All of these vaccines have some side effects the vast majority of us don't have them.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 29, 2002 23:40:18 GMT -5
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Post by GOMERS on Dec 8, 2020 10:39:39 GMT -5
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Dec 8, 2020 11:44:10 GMT -5
Katman you said a key word supposed on viruses a lot of the population do not have the antibodies or antibody production capability etc to keep the viruses from spreading in the body to the extent it doesn't make you real sick or worse. Now about .05% of the folks in the world are immune to just about anything or get not much more the mildly ill if at all and they don't spread. Individuals may be immune to a specific virus but susceptible to others. All the vaccines do is activate either your antibody system to learn how to fight a virus or create the types of antibody's your body needs to combat a virus. I know that some of the early flu vaccines could make you sick in fact I got very sick twice when I was in my 30's after I took the vaccine, I didn't take for many years, did some reading and the process to make changed and since I've had no issues with the shots nor any hint of flu though those around me might have been sick. The first two vaccines are something do something with RNA of the virus I think (I've no idea what) typical vaccines are different in process and appear to be slightly less effective. An individuals immune system may not be capable of producing what's needed hence the need for vaccines or therapeutics that can supplement or help that. Not to take the vaccine is certainly your choice and if you feel which you obviously do that you don't need the vaccine or for whatever reason don't feel safe taking it you shouldn't take it that's a considered personnel decision there will be lots of folks like you. For my part I've been told I have a very robust immune system but I'm still going to take it same as I take flu shots, hepatitis, shingles, pneumonia, tetanus, etc. I am out a lot in an among various working groups and I consider it prudent. Its all good with me one way or another. Chances are pretty good that the herd immunity thing will start in mass If it hasn't already for this virus pretty quick after many take the vaccine. All of these vaccines have some side effects the vast majority of us don't have them. So if "Son of Sam" made a vaccine and Fauci said take it you would inject that and a side order of bleach Im guessing. How the COVID-19 vaccine may transform humanity forever, going from HUMAN 1.0 to HUMAN 2.0 Hcat... BIlly Gates... INJECT ME NOW.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Dec 8, 2020 12:24:24 GMT -5
Katman do not be ridiculous not everything is a conspiracy if it is Trumps in on it. Its fine you do not want to take it you are an intelligent if a skeptic adult About this and it your decision I'm not and i would not support forcing you or anyone else to take it or restrict you movements if you do not.
I take it because i want too i am far more exposed to various input sources then the average bear. My experience with vaccines is overall positive so i have no reservations.
When i get the shot ill give everyone a day to day progress report on that extra eye I might grow. All kidding aside i will honestly tell if i have any ill effects.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Dec 8, 2020 13:51:48 GMT -5
Katman do not be ridiculous not everything is a conspiracy if it is Trumps in on it. Its fine you do not want to take it you are an intelligent if a skeptic adult About this and it your decision I'm not and i would not support forcing you or anyone else to take it or restrict you movements if you do not. I take it because i want too i am far more exposed to various input sources then the average bear. My experience with vaccines is overall positive so i have no reservations. When i get the shot ill give everyone a day to day progress report on that extra eye I might grow. All kidding aside i will honestly tell if i have any ill effects. Show me PROOF that if something is deemed a "conspiracy" that it cant be true. I'm waiting.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Dec 8, 2020 14:13:06 GMT -5
My comment was “not everything is a conspiracy” that does not imply that there are no conspiracies! I don't need proof for a statement of fact. Geeeez man all this from a vaccination? Peeps want to take it they can I don’t care. It is. Not mandatory nor should it be. I see benefits for people espccially over 65. You so not and thats fine. Now I will say kids under 18 don't need it but given the friggin teachers unions they will probably try to make it mandatory to attend school. I am not on board with that if parent so not want it
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Dec 8, 2020 14:19:03 GMT -5
You seem to use the term "Conspiracy" a lot to tag things you dont believe. When in fact, it was the C.I.A. who developed this term to discredit critical independent thinking by the masses. With this and "project Mockingbird" is what you see today in the mainstream fake media.
Folks who listen to MSM (Mainstream Media) are doctrinated to this.
I think you may be one of THEM.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Dec 8, 2020 14:23:00 GMT -5
"Conspiracy" and "Racist" are the terms utilized in an attempt to squash discussion and alternative views.
Those who toss um out are resorting to "No substantial evidence to deny"--but conspiracy or racist should mute the antagonist.
msm uses both, and LOSERS use both!!
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Dec 8, 2020 15:10:31 GMT -5
Yes, sheeple perpetuate propaganda.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Dec 8, 2020 15:22:17 GMT -5
For saying not everything is a conspiracy? As i said that does not say there are no conspiracy’s thats just a statement of fact a very simple truth. As to you rr it works both ways there is no substantial evidence of proof. I did not ask for proof of any sort or links yada yada yada. I made a simple statement stating an obvious fact. Nothing more nothing less. I MADE NO JUDGEMENT on the subject of this thread. All of these things have documented side effects which we should all know. Some reason or other you and Katman choose to see that statement as an attack It was not and wasn't intended to be and both of you know it.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Dec 8, 2020 15:25:02 GMT -5
For saying not everything is a conspiracy? As i said that does not say there are no conspiracy’s thats just a statement of fact a very simple truth. As to you rr it works both ways there is no substantial evidence of proof. I did not ask for proof of any sort or links yada yada yada. I made a simple statement stating an obvious fact. Nothing more nothing less. I MADE NO JUDGEMENT on the subject of this thread. All of these things have documented side effects which we should all know. Some reason or other you and Katman choose to see that statement as an attack It was not and wasn't intended to be and both of you know it. You just USING the word "Conspiracy" means you took your marching orders well. You just cant see it.... And you arent having anything outside the MSM News filter.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Dec 8, 2020 16:27:20 GMT -5
So how is conspiracy not an appropriate word to use in what going on? CONSPIRACY implies a secret agreement among several people usually involving treason or great treachery
Per Webster Now lets look at synonyms that might make you happier. So how about plot or cabal, machinations, or intrigue
Plot implies careful foresight in planning a complex scheme
Cabal typically applies to political intrigue involving persons of some eminence ie a cabal among powerful senators
Intrigue suggests secret underhanded maneuvering in a atmosphere of duplicity
MACHINATION implies a contriving of annoyances, injuries, or evils by indirect means. the machinations of a party boss
All of those apply when talking about theory's of the crap going on.
Now i return all i said was not everything is a conspiracy that sir is a true statement. Would it be better if i said everything is not a plot or cabal? Which are also true statements that do not imply there are no plots or cabals. Katman it was just a statement one of fact it hasn't got a thing to do with msm. All of those things can be true but they can also be false both require proof or better the truth or your truth pov or my truth pov the truth, yes its the truth, no its not. No gray areas
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Dec 8, 2020 16:33:52 GMT -5
You get really long winded but I do want to point out that you called some links I posted here...CONSPIRACY sites did you not?
I mean, thats your right to say that, its just that you ignore why that was started in the first place.
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