Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 2, 2019 11:08:52 GMT -5
So not Shiff is saying if the subpoenaed state dept personnel don't come they will be considered as obstruction and the whistle blower account implicitly true (2nd and 3rd hand of course. Now here's the issue, he doesn't want to allow a State Dept. Lawyer with them nor personnel lawyers. That my friends is not normal, I've no issue with those folks deposing in fact they should, ohh and since this is about the transcript and the whistle blower account none of this is secure stuff , why not do it in the open and not behind closed doors? Ahhh well if you do it in the open you can't leak selective tidbits. I've never heard of not being allowed representation for these things, God knows you need it with these shills you forget you had eggs for Breakfast 10 years ago and they will get you for lying to congress. I might also point out that when testifying McCabe et. al. had justice department lawyers and personnel counsel there...equal justice? I hope all of those folks have direct knowledge of the call else its heresay. I do hope the envoy that resigned doesn't differ from what RJ has said about the meeting cause RJ has copies of the text and various emails course we have not seen all of that. RJ is the wildcard in this IMO he should STFU and let Barr take care of it. Now as a personnel lawyer for Trump RJ has the right to research items that may harm or be lies about the President, but in this he needs to STFU. Would like to see him testify, he's been in the past a very tough prosecutor most of the folks he'll be dealing with are hacks but lawyers are all how would I put it "lower then whale crap" I will agree they should have counsel but ignoring the supeana would be obstruction
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 2, 2019 11:39:39 GMT -5
..let's not forget that liberals are a very, very emotional lot....they tend to act on emotions, vice common sense... And GOPers sure know how to engage in ass hurt
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Oct 2, 2019 15:55:21 GMT -5
Not a lawyer but I am not sure it is obstruction some of what they might say is privileged. Wanna bet they do the written deposition thing more control there.
I will stand by my feeling that it should all be public. Reason its not in judiciary as it should be is they want to keep the whole thing hush hush and leak. JMO but you gonna impeach the President i want to see and hear all of the players and inquisitors. Nothing to hide lay it out as was intended.
Gets to the senate wouldnt be surprised to see a short and sweet up and down vote
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 2, 2019 17:46:07 GMT -5
Not a lawyer but I am not sure it is obstruction some of what they might say is privileged. Wanna bet they do the written deposition thing more control there. I will stand by my feeling that it should all be public. Reason its not in judiciary as it should be is they want to keep the whole thing hush hush and leak. JMO but you gonna impeach the President i want to see and hear all of the players and inquisitors. Nothing to hide lay it out as was intended. Gets to the senate wouldnt be surprised to see a short and sweet up and down vote I will agree they should be allowed counsel but if they refuse to testify imo it is obstruction
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Oct 2, 2019 18:05:20 GMT -5
Not a lawyer but I am not sure it is obstruction some of what they might say is privileged. Wanna bet they do the written deposition thing more control there. I will stand by my feeling that it should all be public. Reason its not in judiciary as it should be is they want to keep the whole thing hush hush and leak. JMO but you gonna impeach the President i want to see and hear all of the players and inquisitors. Nothing to hide lay it out as was intended. Gets to the senate wouldnt be surprised to see a short and sweet up and down vote I will agree they should be allowed counsel but if they refuse to testify imo it is obstruction Lol it like the anal vent everyones got an opinion. I can live with thst This whole thng just confirms to me we need some changes to get rid of some damn bad people washington wont change unless we force convention of states is sorely needed. I know theres s that dont like him but trump is our legally elected president dems are trying to overturn that he does not deserve the treatment we as voters do not deserve the obstruction dems have used this is a do nothing congress controlled by hate and a lust for power. Both sides We should all be ashamed to allow our reps to do this🤬get wiith it people change should be our venue not charlatan politicians
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 2, 2019 18:42:19 GMT -5
I will agree they should be allowed counsel but if they refuse to testify imo it is obstruction Lol it like the anal vent everyones got an opinion. I can live with thst This whole thng just confirms to me we need some changes to get rid of some damn bad people washington wont change unless we force convention of states is sorely needed. I know theres s that dont like him but trump is our legally elected president dems are trying to overturn that he does not deserve the treatment we as voters do not deserve the obstruction dems have used this is a do nothing congress controlled by hate and a lust for power. Both sides We should all be ashamed to allow our reps to do this🤬get wiith it people change should be our venue not charlatan politicians I can agree with most of this
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 17, 2006 13:57:55 GMT -5
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Post by littleblue on Oct 2, 2019 19:33:34 GMT -5
Be clear - are you asking me if I’m a racist? no of course not but the fact u even ask after what I said means.......... I asked are u saying that JD making statement makes him a racist ...... an u get defensive....... I dont know now ....... are u racist? I think I misunderstood the dialogue. If so, my apologies. I certainly didn’t suggest JD is a racist. But you did ask if I am a racist. For the record, I’m not a racist. In fact, I don’t think anyone here is a racist. And I think trying to link the Qcult to the KKK is wrong and offensive. The racism arguments/allegations are a tired ploy. Trump may have faults, but if he’s racist, the job numbers for blacks and Hispanics must be a terrible accident. Some here were accused of being racist for calling Tubby out. I didn’t like it (or believe it) then, and I feel the same way now. When people claim to know what’s in another’s heart, I’m dubious.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Oct 2, 2019 21:26:53 GMT -5
So not Shiff is saying if the subpoenaed state dept personnel don't come they will be considered as obstruction and the whistle blower account implicitly true (2nd and 3rd hand of course. Now here's the issue, he doesn't want to allow a State Dept. Lawyer with them nor personnel lawyers. That my friends is not normal, I've no issue with those folks deposing in fact they should, ohh and since this is about the transcript and the whistle blower account none of this is secure stuff , why not do it in the open and not behind closed doors? Ahhh well if you do it in the open you can't leak selective tidbits. I've never heard of not being allowed representation for these things, God knows you need it with these shills you forget you had eggs for Breakfast 10 years ago and they will get you for lying to congress. I might also point out that when testifying McCabe et. al. had justice department lawyers and personnel counsel there...equal justice? I hope all of those folks have direct knowledge of the call else its heresay. I do hope the envoy that resigned doesn't differ from what RJ has said about the meeting cause RJ has copies of the text and various emails course we have not seen all of that. RJ is the wildcard in this IMO he should STFU and let Barr take care of it. Now as a personnel lawyer for Trump RJ has the right to research items that may harm or be lies about the President, but in this he needs to STFU. Would like to see him testify, he's been in the past a very tough prosecutor most of the folks he'll be dealing with are hacks but lawyers are all how would I put it "lower then whale crap" I will agree they should have counsel but ignoring the supeana would be obstruction Do you think the Dems are targeting Trump?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 2, 2019 21:32:49 GMT -5
no of course not but the fact u even ask after what I said means.......... I asked are u saying that JD making statement makes him a racist ...... an u get defensive....... I dont know now ....... are u racist? I think I misunderstood the dialogue. If so, my apologies. I certainly didn’t suggest JD is a racist. But you did ask if I am a racist. For the record, I’m not a racist. In fact, I don’t think anyone here is a racist. And I think trying to link the Qcult to the KKK is wrong and offensive. The racism arguments/allegations are a tired ploy. Trump may have faults, but if he’s racist, the job numbers for blacks and Hispanics must be a terrible accident. Some here were accused of being racist for calling Tubby out. I didn’t like it (or believe it) then, and I feel the same way now. When people claim to know what’s in another’s heart, I’m dubious. in the context of what in the questioned post was in reference to ..... are u the one calling calling Trump the racist? what I said was perfectly clear. I only even responded like that after u insulted me out of the blue while replying to JD. Then u get all ass hurt saying I called u a racist or whatever. I guess dont hurl insults at people if ur gonna get ur panties in a bunch when they go back at u. If ur not racist and honestly I dont think u are ....... dont get so defensive a go making shit up that wasnt said.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 2, 2019 21:34:15 GMT -5
I will agree they should have counsel but ignoring the supeana would be obstruction Do you think the Dems are targeting Trump? yes they are ....... Gopers targeted Bill n Obama as well. But it only counts I guess when it's against ur guy
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Oct 2, 2019 23:51:16 GMT -5
Do you think the Dems are targeting Trump? yes they are ....... Gopers targeted Bill n Obama as well. But it only counts I guess when it's against ur guy There is no crime, does that matter?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 3, 2019 7:55:56 GMT -5
yes they are ....... Gopers targeted Bill n Obama as well. But it only counts I guess when it's against ur guy There is no crime, does that matter? oh I know with ur guy theres no crime but with others they need to be killed ......
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Oct 3, 2019 8:00:03 GMT -5
There is no crime, does that matter? oh I know with ur guy theres no crime but with others they need to be killed ...... I thought you would rather them spend the rest of their lives in Guantamino Bay?
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 3, 2019 8:02:22 GMT -5
oh I know with ur guy theres no crime but with others they need to be killed ...... I thought you would rather them spend the rest of their lives in Guantamino Bay? u are truly a sadistic n evil person.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Oct 3, 2019 8:07:47 GMT -5
I thought you would rather them spend the rest of their lives in Guantamino Bay? u are truly a sadistic n evil person. Well YOU cant have it both ways...If you are against the Death Penalty for Treason then how can you be against Jail for treason?
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