Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 3, 2019 8:21:51 GMT -5
u are truly a sadistic n evil person. Well YOU cant have it both ways...If you are against the Death Penalty for Treason then how can you be against Jail for treason? u call for executions n death to anyone that disagrees with Trump as u brand them a Traitor ...... as to you Trump is God quite literally in ur mind n he is above any reproach. U are just a facist ....... u were born too late n in wrong country. U would have been a rock star in Hitlers SS
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 3, 2019 9:47:38 GMT -5
White House tearing itself apart ...... Rudy vd Barr n Trump v Pence....... even their aides are going at it.
Popcorn time. Q anon folks better get shrinks on speed dial or else bridges will be crowded from folks wanting to jump.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 3, 2019 10:59:24 GMT -5
The meltdown has begun it seems. I thought Trump would make it to 2020 election now who knows. White house in chaos even Fox has gone silent. Death throws starting
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Oct 3, 2019 11:34:44 GMT -5
LOL...You are listening to the MSM..Trump is headed to Florida to sign deal on Medicare.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Oct 3, 2019 11:58:29 GMT -5
Well lets sum up this thread so far God has been injected into the conversation...now I'm a believer but I do not think God has much to do with this mess, its free will of peeps lusting for power (and again both sides) Treason - Ain't anyone committed treason - corruption yes (course there is disagreement on who is corrupt or the extent of same) A fundamental disagreement on how a President can conduct the Nations business with supposedly secure conversations with other nations leaders in particular in regard to requesting aid in investigations concerning possible intrusion into our nations business) Bear in mind folks most of our treaty's include a mutual cooperation clause invoked by the chief executive. Biased view of the transcript...damn good thing none of us in on a Jury for this though we would be better then what's going on in Washington. Schiff once again caught in a Major Lie..he did have contact before the Whistleblower filed..and if any of you think his aids didn't let him know and he and his cronies didn't immediately get involved I do feel sorry for you as you are quite naïve. Same for Nancy, they are in the development of that whistle blower form think as thieves. By the way ya'll want to do the whistle blower thing, go on line the form is there for any and all to use, It also completely explains the required procedure ya don't need the intelligence committee to "guide you". BTW wonder who paid those lawyers to prep that, cause I guarantee a CIA analyst aint got the cash to pay those $1,000/hr shysters. The leaks continue Rudy G still needs to STFU Impeachment Procedure-inquiry - The correct procedure is not being followed, the inquiry should have come from a whole house vote..give it to Pelousy,the way she's done it the opposition has no ability to subpoena, call witnesses, I'm not even sure they can be present unless asked at depositions, the procedure alone and how it has been done could possibly get a dismissal from the Senate majority. The senate is useless as teats on a boar hog..nuff said on that... The country is suffering because of the shitheads in Congress...nothing at all getting done. Nothing is going to get done Trumps got good lawyers maybe the best they be tough SOB's but the Trumpster needs to STFU and let them beat the considerable manure out of this fiasco Trump will be referred to the Senate unless cooler or maybe I should say worried about getting rich house members in Trump territory get several sets...end result waste of time their are not now or will there be 67 votes in the senate to remove him. So those worried over this political procedure learn a little about civics and how not to impeach and how these dumbasses in congress (senate and house)care so little for the peoples business and so much on for personal power and folks I'm not talking about just one side.
and the final irrefutable fact to date...a correct transcript was released of the conversation...the whistleblowers account is only remotely related..lots of facts wrong..if we paid the CIA analyst to do that type of research .... shame on us and he should be fired for incompetence. If the Trumpster is to be referred by the house it will be on the basis of that transcript pretty frikkin' weak in a court room but it's not a courtroom or even a legal procedure as you and I would deal with. So we have this pig stye investigation
Now lets talk about the ex-VP, Ya'll know and I know the SOB is corrupt, he and his family made money while in office off of his access to the President and his own contacts. So for the most part of Washington WTF is new? That being said it ain't got a damn thing to do with these events. i.e. Ukrainian interference in our election in 2016 which for everyone's disagreement is the focus of that phone conversation. Its a separate matter other than Joe putting the strong arm on the Ukraine to keep his son out of being somebody's "friend" in a federal prison.
What is going to come of this. Well I'm not real sure except: Trump will not get removed by this. Warren will be the Dem Nominee (ya'll like that welfare for all immigrants proposal?) Bernie is going to drop out..the old fellow can't handle the strain anymore Beto is still a dumbass Mayor Pete is a wimp can't even run South Bend Harris can't find anyone to take a nap with that can help her Spartacus is toast - NJ is ok with him I guess, he can go back to eating eggplant and broccoli at some high end veggie restaurant. The rest...wasting time and money
Mitch McConnel - not sure what the hell he's gonna do Mitch Romney - Still a dumbass - false outrage - he didn't even have the Nads to challenge Obama in the debate on Russia Ben Sass - He be gone next election
So that's my summary today...could change at the end of the day we as voters need to make a lot of changes all these folks in congress need to go and we need a convention of states to change the ability of politicians to make a career out of a job the founders viewed as short term service to your country. Let the voters decide on the next president not these low lifes we managed to put in congress.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 21, 2019 12:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiddlingone on Oct 3, 2019 12:47:48 GMT -5
The R's and D's are both part of the swamp. The left side is a little deeper than the right, but they both wallow in the swamp and love it. They are sending a message not only to Trump, but to future people who might want to clean it up, that you should leave things alone or there will be a steep and very unpleasant price to pay. They all make me sick.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Oct 3, 2019 12:50:51 GMT -5
Yes Fiddling, there will be several "Republicans" who wont hold office much longer either. But the largest part of the criminal infestation in government resides in the D party.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Oct 3, 2019 13:16:45 GMT -5
Yes Fiddling, there will be several "Republicans" who wont hold office much longer either. But the largest part of the criminal infestation in government resides in the D party. I think its pretty damn deep on both sides Katman just that democrats are louder about it.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Oct 3, 2019 14:04:12 GMT -5
Everyone sees thru their own prism.
I agree both parties are at fault. But I see the GOP’ers as being worse and louder.
They even have their own network. Faux News.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Oct 3, 2019 14:43:28 GMT -5
Everyone sees thru their own prism. I agree both parties are at fault. But I see the GOP’ers as being worse and louder. They even have their own network. Faux News. Awww common, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC all push the Dem Agenda, everybody both sides are in the tank one way or the other. So far Major news outlets more wrong then right, that might change I doubt it, they all use a spinner to confuse the facts (FN too just in case you think I'm leaving that out) As you say we all see this through their own prism but I might say a kaleidoscope is more accurate, ever changing colors and fractures when you turn it.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Oct 3, 2019 15:01:32 GMT -5
Everyone sees thru their own prism. I agree both parties are at fault. But I see the GOP’ers as being worse and louder. They even have their own network. Faux News. Awww common, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC all push the Dem Agenda, everybody both sides are in the tank one way or the other. So far Major news outlets more wrong then right, that might change I doubt it, they all use a spinner to confuse the facts (FN too just in case you think I'm leaving that out) As you say we all see this through their own prism but I might say a kaleidoscope is more accurate, ever changing colors and fractures when you turn it. We obviously don’t see the same thing. I don’t watch CNN or MSNBC so I can’t say one way or the other about them. I do watch abc, cbs and nbc. I have not seen any such democrat support that is claimed by the loudest gop’ers. Then you have Faux News that doesn’t even pretend to be anything but a gop propaganda machine. But I like Faux News. They have a ton of hot chicks. Pretty much airheads. But they are hot. And besides the hot chicks, Faux News makes for damn fine comedy. Not as funny as Rush Dumbaugh or Dan Bongong, but still funny. And that crazy judge lady on Faux News, she hilarious. 😆
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Oct 3, 2019 15:27:48 GMT -5
Everyone sees thru their own prism. I agree both parties are at fault. But I see the GOP’ers as being worse and louder. They even have their own network. Faux News. Honestly I think ots pretty much equal Dems have MSNBC an CNN . both sides are loud and terrible imo
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 22, 2002 6:40:17 GMT -5
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Post by Riley on Oct 3, 2019 15:36:22 GMT -5
..both sides are corrupt as hell...some hide it better than others...just in DC to get a paycheck, scratch each other backs when necessary to make a $$$$$$ deal under the table, and just worried about getting re-elected so they can retire.....crooks they all are...escept Nixon, he said "I'm not a crook!"....
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Oct 3, 2019 16:08:47 GMT -5
Yes Fiddling, there will be several "Republicans" who wont hold office much longer either. But the largest part of the criminal infestation in government resides in the D party. I think its pretty damn deep on both sides Katman just that democrats are louder about it. Not deep enough in the Senate the corruption is...The Dems know it. Why do you think they wont vote on impeachment to cover the criminality? They know they need 2/3 in the Senate...AINT HAPPENING Also, individual members of the house dont want their vote on record. Think about it.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 21, 2019 12:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiddlingone on Oct 3, 2019 16:10:45 GMT -5
..both sides are corrupt as hell...some hide it better than others...just in DC to get a paycheck, scratch each other backs when necessary to make a $$$$$$ deal under the table, and just worried about getting re-elected so they can retire.....crooks they all are...escept Nixon, he said "I'm not a crook!".... I'm not taking up for Nixon. He got what he deserved, but he was an exceptionally intelligent man. I've seen a few long interviews he had with media types and his grasp of things and how they interacted was superb. He was just another politician though.
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