Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Nov 14, 2019 7:48:09 GMT -5
Only person that could fire me is me. But at least you finally admit the whole thing with Clinton was about the BJ. Thats like me saying You admitted to getting a BJ at work. Only in your twisted messed up lying mind.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Dec 24, 2008 12:00:13 GMT -5
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Post by Streeter on Nov 14, 2019 7:51:29 GMT -5
That's exactly what you do, attack the messenger. And with lies. You are exactly what you accuse everyone else of being. Now you try to say your Klan didn't impeach Clinton over a BJ. OK, let's have it your way. What crimes did Monica Lewinski testify to that got Clinton impeached? Why did she testify at all if it wasn't about the BJ? Apparently there was a time before you became insane that you knew that Rush Dumbaugh was the hate monger that he is. Now you even deny your own learnings. I would tell you to seek help but I don't believe there is help out there for you. Actually he didn't get impeached for the BJ he got impeached for perjury and I think obstruction. I'm no Clinton fan but the parallels to Trump are quite striking if you step back and look. Both were stalked by the opposite party from the start. Both had well earned reputations for fooling around (though how could you really blame Bill? and I don't think at the end of the day anyone did) though to my knowledge Trump has kept it zipped while in office (given his wife would be a fool to mess around). The BJ like the phone call was used as an excuse to open the door neither IMO in and of themselves impeachable and IMO neither situation should have been advanced to the levels they did and are. JD and I have our differences on what's happening now that's fair he's opinionated so am I and we do agree (I think) that the truth needs to come out no matter the outcome, and no matter how disappointed he nor I might be and that all of those involved are scum of the earth. Really lets settle it at the ballot box, this crap folks are going on is really not worth the vitriol nor the sweat off of our nads. fair buff. Many parrells to Clinton I agree. Both were Potus during booming economies....... both were a little shady around other women, in both cases the other party desperately wanted them out. What is crazy is folks thinking the shit happening to Trump has never happened before with people going after the President for political reasons. People went after Bill relentlessly. It will be settled at the polls and if Bernie or Liz get nom then Trump wins ..... if its Biden it will depend on how bad Biden gaffes..... if Bloomberg Ttump loses (but I'm sensing Bloomberg may be less than committed. Throwing a 100 mil in for him is like us finding loose change in cushions.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 14, 2019 9:00:24 GMT -5
Streeter, have you heard of the Clinton foundation?
Also Bloomberg is toast.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Nov 14, 2019 9:01:10 GMT -5
Actually he didn't get impeached for the BJ he got impeached for perjury and I think obstruction. I'm no Clinton fan but the parallels to Trump are quite striking if you step back and look. Both were stalked by the opposite party from the start. Both had well earned reputations for fooling around (though how could you really blame Bill? and I don't think at the end of the day anyone did) though to my knowledge Trump has kept it zipped while in office (given his wife would be a fool to mess around). The BJ like the phone call was used as an excuse to open the door neither IMO in and of themselves impeachable and IMO neither situation should have been advanced to the levels they did and are. JD and I have our differences on what's happening now that's fair he's opinionated so am I and we do agree (I think) that the truth needs to come out no matter the outcome, and no matter how disappointed he nor I might be and that all of those involved are scum of the earth. Really lets settle it at the ballot box, this crap folks are going on is really not worth the vitriol nor the sweat off of our nads. fair buff. Many parrells to Clinton I agree. Both were Potus during booming economies....... both were a little shady around other women, in both cases the other party desperately wanted them out. What is crazy is folks thinking the shit happening to Trump has never happened before with people going after the President for political reasons. People went after Bill relentlessly. It will be settled at the polls and if Bernie or Liz get nom then Trump wins ..... if its Biden it will depend on how bad Biden gaffes..... if Bloomberg Ttump loses (but I'm sensing Bloomberg may be less than committed. Throwing a 100 mil in for him is like us finding loose change in cushions. They went Obama even more. From the day Obama got elected Bitch McConnell even said his only focus was to keep Obama from being re-elected. And that's all he did for 4 years. Then when Obama got re-elected Bitch said his only job was to keep a democrat from following Obama. He was successful in that only because democrats were dumb enough to nominate Hillary. And even she, as purely an unlikable person that's ever run, beat Trump in the popular vote. By millions of votes. If the reverse had happened and Hillary had won the electoral votes and Trump won the popular vote these right wing nuts would not still be with us. Their heads would have exploded. There would have riots that would make the 68 riots look like a picnic. You think they make up fake news now? We would truly be in a civil war. Trump hasn't made the nuts more nutty. They were always there. He has just given them a stage. He's made it OK for the craziest of the crazies to come out.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 14, 2019 9:12:15 GMT -5
Elections arent won on who can get the most illegals to vote. ITS won on the electoral votes which is how you are supposed to run and strategize. The founding fathers created the electoral college to keep our voting legit on a national level.
Trump outworked Clinton. You know it. Also, do you REALLY believe that Clinton would have tried to drain the swamp? Seriously? She is part of the swamp being drained.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Nov 14, 2019 9:21:52 GMT -5
Elections arent won on who can get the most illegals to vote. ITS won on the electoral votes which is how you are supposed to run and strategize. The founding fathers created the electoral college to keep our voting legit on a national level. Trump outworked Clinton. You know it. Also, do you REALLY believe that Clinton would have tried to drain the swamp? Seriously? She is part of the swamp being drained. Wrong again. The swamp being drained is the trump swamp. Only trumpers going to jail. As it should be. You clowns would have never accepted the electoral college win had it been reversed. You can talk your rule of law BS all you want. You care absolutely nothing about rule of law or law and order. You only want your commie agenda pushed. Now it's out there that your boy made another illegal call. I'm sure the haters like you and dan bongong and rush dumbaugh, and laura ingrate and the crazy judge lady at Faux News will turn the spin machine into over drive but your ilk has been outed. The truth is too bright for you cockroaches. They do have the sense to play fools like you. I'll give them credit for that. You have got to be the dumbest person that ever learned to turn on a computer.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 14, 2019 10:32:24 GMT -5
Elections arent won on who can get the most illegals to vote. ITS won on the electoral votes which is how you are supposed to run and strategize. The founding fathers created the electoral college to keep our voting legit on a national level. Trump outworked Clinton. You know it. Also, do you REALLY believe that Clinton would have tried to drain the swamp? Seriously? She is part of the swamp being drained. Wrong again. The swamp being drained is the trump swamp. Only trumpers going to jail. As it should be. You clowns would have never accepted the electoral college win had it been reversed. You can talk your rule of law BS all you want. You care absolutely nothing about rule of law or law and order. You only want your commie agenda pushed. Now it's out there that your boy made another illegal call. I'm sure the haters like you and dan bongong and rush dumbaugh, and laura ingrate and the crazy judge lady at Faux News will turn the spin machine into over drive but your ilk has been outed. The truth is too bright for you cockroaches. They do have the sense to play fools like you. I'll give them credit for that. You have got to be the dumbest person that ever learned to turn on a computer. You cant be this stupid.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Nov 14, 2019 10:42:27 GMT -5
Wrong again. The swamp being drained is the trump swamp. Only trumpers going to jail. As it should be. You clowns would have never accepted the electoral college win had it been reversed. You can talk your rule of law BS all you want. You care absolutely nothing about rule of law or law and order. You only want your commie agenda pushed. Now it's out there that your boy made another illegal call. I'm sure the haters like you and dan bongong and rush dumbaugh, and laura ingrate and the crazy judge lady at Faux News will turn the spin machine into over drive but your ilk has been outed. The truth is too bright for you cockroaches. They do have the sense to play fools like you. I'll give them credit for that. You have got to be the dumbest person that ever learned to turn on a computer. You cant be this stupid. Since everything you post is a lie you just called me smart.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 14, 2019 13:23:19 GMT -5
Sorry I accidentally posted on your post.
Smart doesnt vote for a party who is hell bent on Socialism and globalism.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jan 9, 2006 11:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by houstoncat on Nov 14, 2019 13:29:08 GMT -5
I really don't want to get into the popular electoral college vote thing. The electoral college was set up to avoid the issue of heavily populated states or cities controlling elections. They system gives the smaller populated areas a reasonable chance of electing a president. It has worked well, Clinton got the vast majority of votes in California and New York the very model of why the electoral college was chosen. I do believe a couple of FBI guys are going to jail, maybe the Clapper and Brennan. I don't think Flynn will go, I think the case will be dismissed whatever case can be made of a purgery trap, Mannaford is tax issues, not sure bout the other fella but that would probably be tapering with witness. Laws were broken peeps from both sides will go to jail over it.
If things were reversed in the Electoral college I certainly would accept because I understand why it was instituted. I don't really want new York, California, or Chicago politicians running my life nor should you. They do not respect the great middle of the country and consider us "backward". They know best. The Electoral college needs to stay in place
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Sept 8, 2001 20:59:02 GMT -5
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Post by Katman on Nov 14, 2019 13:32:52 GMT -5
Yes, and the deep state must be decapitated.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Mar 21, 2019 12:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by fiddlingone on Nov 14, 2019 13:36:37 GMT -5
The EC was a compromise to get the little states to join the union. Without the compromise, it's doubtful how many of them would have joined. The little states have the same fears now and rightfully so.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Nov 14, 2019 13:44:44 GMT -5
I really don't want to get into the popular electoral college vote thing. The electoral college was set up to avoid the issue of heavily populated states or cities controlling elections. They system gives the smaller populated areas a reasonable chance of electing a president. It has worked well, Clinton got the vast majority of votes in California and New York the very model of why the electoral college was chosen. I do believe a couple of FBI guys are going to jail, maybe the Clapper and Brennan. I don't think Flynn will go, I think the case will be dismissed whatever case can be made of a purgery trap, Mannaford is tax issues, not sure bout the other fella but that would probably be tapering with witness. Laws were broken peeps from both sides will go to jail over it. If things were reversed in the Electoral college I certainly would accept because I understand why it was instituted. I don't really want new York, California, or Chicago politicians running my life nor should you. They do not respect the great middle of the country and consider us "backward". They know best. The Electoral college needs to stay in place No way on earth the GOP'er would have accepted it. We would still be having riots. Maybe you would have accepted it. But no way the trumpers would have. Hell, he wouldn't have accepted if he had lost both. He still claims he won the popular vote too. He's as delusional as his blind followers. He even has his own truth. Being from a small state like Kentucky I also agree with the electoral college system. But the orange face only agrees because he won that way.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Apr 16, 2003 15:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by JD on Nov 14, 2019 13:45:42 GMT -5
Sorry I accidentally posted on your post. Smart doesnt vote for a party who is hell bent on Socialism and globalism. I know, That's why commies like you love some orange face.
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Became a Dynasty Defender: Jun 3, 2002 11:49:19 GMT -5
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Post by ruppsrunt on Nov 14, 2019 14:19:52 GMT -5
When kennedy STOLE the election against nixon by having chicago mob "create" votes needed to get those electoral votes for kennedy---repubs did NOT complain, seek a re-count, go to the supreme court--or WHINE!! And--evil lyndon johnson did the same in texas, but nixon refused to contest the initial vote counts.Results were accepted and NO whine was made about the obvious CHEATING that was done in chicago and texas. So--NO conservatives accept the vote of the electoral college---never a case where conservatives marched and whined and burned and forced a decision by the supreme court. but--dems--whine and moan all the time--baby bush twice and TRUMP. whine, moan, recount, supreme court--and still whine and moan about TRUMP. For those too young to remember or were not alive at the time--a little refresher for the dems to get some FACTS;
That fact wasn’t lost on Nixon’s supporters, who urged the candidate to contest the results. At the time, Kennedy was also leading in the critical state of California, which was Nixon’s home state. But a count of absentee ballots gave Nixon the state several weeks later, after he conceded it to Kennedy. In Illinois, there were rampant rumors that Chicago’s Mayor Richard Daley used his political machine to stuff the ballot box in Cook County. Democrats charged the GOP with similar tactics in southern Illinois. Down in Texas, there were similar claims about the influence of Kennedy’s running mate, Lyndon B. Johnson, over that state’s election. On Wednesday afternoon, November 9, 1960, Nixon officially conceded the election to Kennedy. He told his friend, journalist Earl Mazo, that “our country cannot afford the agony of a constitutional crisis.” (Mazo had written a series of articles about voter fraud after the 1960 election, which he stopped at Nixon’s request.) In later years, Nixon also claimed in an autobiography that widespread fraud happened in Illinois and Texas during the 1960 election. constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-drama-behind-president-kennedys-1960-election-win/rr
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